Selling a intriguing shipreck manuscript of a US MILITARY SHIP FROM CIVIL WAR, POSSIBLE TREASURE!

[bjcvieira]

Hello,

Looking for serious investigators interested in buying a intriguing manuscript about a US Navy ship from civil war, why intriguing may you ask ? i give you the reasons:

1) The manuscript is a foreign country oficial document (portuguese), that declares the shipreck of a military US NAVY ship in a foreign country, it has all the description of the shipreck, including location and it includes the signatures of the US sailors, of the USA representative in that country (with leftover of legal stamp) and local authorities signatures, this document is 100% legit and proves without any doubt that this ship sunk, no indication of the cargo is ever mentioned.

2) In USA Navy archives this ship has no registration of being lost, in the same year of the shipreck it supposedly returns to land and is dismantle and sold, so there was a clear lie about the history of this ship, why would someone lie about the destiny of the a US navy ship ?

3) A very intriguing fact, that i cant understand, this ship sunk in Portuguese territory in AFRICA, what was a civil war ship doing in AFRICA!? i have found no valid reason for this, i have questioned some persons specialized in civil war and nobody had a valid answer.

4) RESUME: A CIVIL WAR SHIP, SHIPRECKED IN AFRICA, WITH USA NAVY ARCHIVES SAYING IT CAME HOME AND WAS DISMANTLE NAD NEVER SUNK! What cargo and secret mission did this ship had ?

About selling, i am selling this document because i have no time or means to conduct a serious investigation on this issue.

The Document can be seen in LISBON, Portugal.

 

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[pepperj]

Master explorer Dirk Pitt (Matthew McConaughey) takes on the adventure of his life when he embarks on a treasure hunt through some of the most dangerous regions of North Africa. Searching for whal locals call "The Ship of Death", a long lost Civil War battleship filled with coins.

Was the movie Sahara based on a true story?

It stars Matthew McConaughey, Steve Zahn and Penélope Cruz, and follows a treasure hunter who partners with a WHO doctor to find a lost American Civil War Ironclad warship in the Sahara Desert.

The Real Story: Probably not. "There is not a lost Confederate ironclad full of gold, or even one full of silver or old pennies or valuable baseball cards!" University of Virginia history Professor Gary Gallagher said. "The whole idea is silly ... though it made for a premise in the film

 

[bjcvieira]

Master explorer Dirk Pitt (Matthew McConaughey) takes on the adventure of his life when he embarks on a treasure hunt through some of the most dangerous regions of North Africa. Searching for whal locals call "The Ship of Death", a long lost Civil War battleship filled with coins.

Was the movie Sahara based on a true story?

It stars Matthew McConaughey, Steve Zahn and Penélope Cruz, and follows a treasure hunter who partners with a WHO doctor to find a lost American Civil War Ironclad warship in the Sahara Desert.
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The Real Story: Probably not. "There is not a lost Confederate ironclad full of gold, or even one full of silver or old pennies or valuable baseball cards!" University of Virginia history Professor Gary Gallagher said. "The whole idea is silly ... though it made for a premise in the film

Sometimes reality surpasses fiction! whats the cargo i dont know but there is a USA NAVY SHIP from the civil war sunken in africa i have the proofts.

 

[pepperj]

Yes great read 30 yrs ago-Clive Custler is a brilliant writer of fiction built on his knowledge of historical events.

 

[bjcvieira]

Yes great read 30 yrs ago-Clive Custler is a brilliant writer of fiction built on his knowledge of historical events.
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If you are not interested why do you reply to my post like that ? the document is available to see in Lisbon for interested investigators and document specialists! Keep your reading and movies to yourself, this is serious investigating and obvious nothing that you are interested, being impolite is your main focus i see.

 

[bjcvieira]

Serious investigators contact in PM, this is a unique oportunity the information i am posting is 100% confirmed all the document was reviewed, from the paper to the signatures, to the persons envolved.

 

[pepperj]

If you are not interested why do you reply to my post like that ? the document is available to see in Lisbon for interested investigators and document specialists! Keep your reading and movies to yourself, this is serious investigating and obvious nothing that you are interested, being impolite is your main focus i see.

I never said your document didn't exist-I stated that a novel/movie was built around the same historical event it seemed.
Impolite? No just expressing my take on it.
A tad touchy are we now....

 

[bjcvieira]

I never said your document didn't exist-I stated that a novel/movie was built around the same historical event it seemed.
Impolite? No just expressing my take on it.
A tad touchy are we now....

ok! english is not my main language maybe i did not understand you correctly. About the novel the geographical location is not correct or the ship name.

Regards,

Bruno Vieira

 

[pepperj]

ok! english is not my main language maybe i did not understand you correctly. About the novel the geographical location is not correct or the ship name.

Regards,

Bruno Vieira

The theme/idea/subject is though.
Now if you were an author-would you give the right location or details in a book and put a big old X on a map for others to go dig it up?

 

[bjcvieira]

The theme/idea/subject is though.
Now if you were an author-would you give the right location or details in a book and put a big old X on a map for others to go dig it up?

I don't know what was the cargo, in the manuscript i have is not mention, what is indeed strange! Before having this document i didn't even know that was possible for a usa military civil war vapour ship to cross the atlantic, i thought these ships were limited to Coast Guard patrols! From the manuscript most of the crew survive so it's theorical possible that the history was written by some sailor and later read by someone. If the ship was envolved in a special mission it's also possible that most of the crew did not know the cargo it was carrying.

 

[stoneshirt]

I never said your document didn't exist-I stated that a novel/movie was built around the same historical event it seemed.
Impolite? No just expressing my take on it.
A tad touchy are we now....

Lots of People on here that actually look for something that can be construed as an insult.Gives them something to write about.

 

[pepperj]

Lots of People on here that actually look for something that can be construed as an insult.Gives them something to write about.

Lots of time it's the translation/interpretation of that inept Google translator. It's usually the case, and is sorted out through posting.

 

[CreakyDigger]

We are to believe that an 1860's ironclad crossed the Atlantic? Seaworthy they were not.

 

[bjcvieira]

We are to believe that an 1860's ironclad crossed the Atlantic? Seaworthy they were not.

That is another aspect that makes this puzzle interesting.... what would make them do this danger voyage....

 

[Magoopeter]

Africa Squadron - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Red-Coat]

Africa Squadron - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks for posting that. I was in the process of composing the reply below.

 

[Red-Coat]

... A very intriguing fact, that i cant understand, this ship sunk in Portuguese territory in AFRICA, what was a civil war ship doing in AFRICA!? i have found no valid reason for this, i have questioned some persons specialized in civil war and nobody had a valid answer.

I was staggered by some of the responses here. I have no interest in a treasure hunt off the African coast and it's difficult to comment sensibly on your particular document with the low level of detail you provided... but I wouldn't put much faith in anyone who claims to "specialize in civil war" but doesn't have a valid answer why a civil war ship could be found in Africa. There's one excellent reason, but it has nothing to do with treasure.

Various sloops-of-war, frigates and other US warships of the Union served in the “Africa Squadron” in the lead-up to the Civil War. The USS Marion operated on the African coast between 1853-1855 and 1858-1860; USS Vincennes between 1857-60; USS Jacinto between 1859-1860; USS Portsmouth between 1859-61; USS Mystic between 1860-1861; USS Mohican between 1860-1861; USS Sumpter between 1860-1861. The squadron’s flagship was USS Constellation from 1859-1861.

The main purpose of the squadron was to disrupt the illegal trade of slaves from Africa into America by capturing slaver vessels along the coast of West Africa operated by or on behalf of merchants in the Southern states and profiteers in New York. Several of the African ports used for illegal embarkation of slaves were under Portuguese control. Although slavery was still legal in America at the time, US involvement in the Atlantic slave trade by importation had been banned by Congress on 2nd March 1807 (effective 1st January 1808).

A number of the Africa Squadron vessels remained on station along the West African coast during the first few months of the Civil War but were progressively recalled to America to assist in the war effort in general and the blockade of Southern ports in particular. The blockade was crippling to the economy and war effort of the Southern states and so the Confederacy retaliated by sending ‘Commerce Raider’ ships to Africa in order to capture merchant ships and their cargoes destined for the Union. Notably, among others, the CSS Alabama operating in tandem with CSS Tuscaloosa until about September of 1863. The Confederacy hoped to draw the Union into deploying more ships to Africa to protect merchant shipping and weaken the blockade. Astute management of resources and a mammoth shipbuilding program enabled the Union to actually steadily strengthen the blockade, although they did send a few additional ships to Africa to hunt down and destroy the few remaining Confederate raiders and privateers.

 

[Tnmountains]

I found it odd that members used Clive Cussler as an example for fictional writing when Cussler in fact made history by discovering the " Hunley" . A most significant Condederate find recovery and preservation.

 

[GoDeep]

Hello,

Looking for serious investigators interested in buying a intriguing manuscript about a US Navy ship from civil war, why intriguing may you ask ? i give you the reasons:

1) The manuscript is a foreign country oficial document (portuguese), that declares the shipreck of a military US NAVY ship in a foreign country, it has all the description of the shipreck, including location and it includes the signatures of the US sailors, of the USA representative in that country (with leftover of legal stamp) and local authorities signatures, this document is 100% legit and proves without any doubt that this ship sunk, no indication of the cargo is ever mentioned.

2) In USA Navy archives this ship has no registration of being lost, in the same year of the shipreck it supposedly returns to land and is dismantle and sold, so there was a clear lie about the history of this ship, why would someone lie about the destiny of the a US navy ship ?

3) A very intriguing fact, that i cant understand, this ship sunk in Portuguese territory in AFRICA, what was a civil war ship doing in AFRICA!? i have found no valid reason for this, i have questioned some persons specialized in civil war and nobody had a valid answer.

4) RESUME: A CIVIL WAR SHIP, SHIPRECKED IN AFRICA, WITH USA NAVY ARCHIVES SAYING IT CAME HOME AND WAS DISMANTLE NAD NEVER SUNK! What cargo and secret mission did this ship had ?

About selling, i am selling this document because i have no time or means to conduct a serious investigation on this issue.

The Document can be seen in LISBON, Portugal.

I'm interested. Do you own the "document" or does another party? If you own it, when and how did you acquire the document?

 

[pepperj]

I found it odd that members used Clive Cussler as an example for fictional writing when Cussler in fact made history by discovering the " Hunley" . A most significant Condederate find recovery and preservation.

Well I see that I was the one that did that reference.
So in #4 I stated that he wrote fiction on his historical knowledge.

So you think otherwise?

I really don't believe that the Dirk Pitt, or Rudy were actual real people.
Clive Cussler is a brilliant author that builds a novel around historical research. Period.
How is that wrong?