thanks for the info, i think i have a nice idea of the errors out there, i actually have been working on filling a solo cup with the ones i do find, some day i will get them together and share them, as for the quarter, i just got a new camera, its charging, pics soon. earlier today found a strong 1971 quarter DDO with what looks like a extra strike off the edging and there is also lettering on the 3rd side also a 1920s wheat,, i had fun hunting today