tools box 5

[bruce]

I sorted these to the large worn flakes box. I think these all been worked
and resharpend. I think they had somesort of socket handle. Please
let me know what you think about them? 12-A-446



Thanks,
Bruce

 

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[Cannonman17]

I'll say you're doing a pretty good job as far as sorting through the stuff (I don't see a lot of just rocks) but I do notice that you assign too much meaning to some ordinary flakes though, a good many appear to be just byproducts of the manufacturing process. Doing what you're doing will turn up a lot of broken peices of points though. I used to keep a lot of flakes, specially from muddy fields where you can't get a great look at them... I have on many occasions went home to clean the flakes up a bit only to find a thumb scraper or two or even broken projectile points that I didn't notice while in the field.

 

[bruce]

Thanks Cnn,
Thats short foe the cannonman. The man with the news!
Thanks for your opinions, learning as I go. I wonder how long does a peice
of flint is used till it shows high polish and actual wear. Tell me what in box 6
if you have time.
Thanks,

Bruce

 

[Cannonman17]

Thanks Cnn,
Thats short foe the cannonman. The man with the news!
Thanks for your opinions, learning as I go. I wonder how long does a peice
of flint is used till it shows high polish and actual wear. Tell me what in box 6
if you have time.
Thanks,

Bruce

Polish can come from use wear or it can come from the environment. A knife or flake or point or anything if left in an active river can sometimes develope heavy rounding of the flaking scars and or polish although you can usualy distinguish between that and use wear polish because the later is normally located only in specific areas like the edges being used. How long it takes to develope wear from use depends on 1)type of material and 2)what it's being used for. In other words theres a ton of variables and no way for me to give you a one line answer other than it depends. One thing of interest to note is that some studies have been done where people looked at the edges of tools under super close magnification and noticed a nuber of different but very distinct wear patterns. Those same people then went and created some modern stone tools similar to the ones they had been looking at and used them in all different ways, some they would cut wood with, some they would chope bone with, some they dug with, some they cut meat with, on and on... when everything was said and done they found that they created the same wear patterns and by comparing theirs with the old ones they could tell what they had been used for- isn't that cool? I would like to do that- find out what them knives were used for!

 

[stryker-one]

Bruce,

Nice flakes. A lot of my projectile and artifact hunting and finding was done in AZ back in the 80's and 90's. Seeing your flake collection reminds me of several spots that I found. One in particular was a ridge end located on private property outside of town. This hilltop beside the ridge end was once a small dwelling area of I believe the Hohokam Indians and was abandoned about 1205 AD (common belief) and locally accepted as a fact.

All different types and colors of pottery shards and projectile flakes, Mano pieces and debrief could be found laying on the surface. This ridge end had been there when the area was occupied. There were several worn areas like benches, worn into the ridge rock strata--it was a nice fit to sit and scan the river and valley area below--as you would knapp projectile points et. al. (assumption on my part). Below this Bench area the ridge was covered--and I mean covered with all sizes of flakeage (my word ), spall, pieces of mother stone and debrief. I spent many hours digging through this waste. From this activity I was able to reconstruct (at least to my satisfaction) how projectile points were manufactured by these people.

I wish I had gathered more flakes--or that more that I did gather had survived the many moves I have made since that time.

Long story--short.

Keep gathering, studying and organizing the way you are doing. It will help a lot with spotting projectile points when you are out and about. Oh yeah and keep posting.

Stryker