Trivia Question?

bigscoop · Dec 28, 2011

We know who "Jackson, Clay, Coles, and Chief Justice Marshall" were, their individual histories can easily be found without too much effort. But who was, "Witcher" and what was his history?

And an obvious question in regard to these men;
As they pertain to the Beale story, is there a possible reason these names were presented in the pamphlet? :dontknow:

Rebel - KGC · Dec 28, 2011

MAYBE... varoots.tripod.com/wit/ :coffee2:

The guys were friends or something; MAYBE... FreeMasons!

tat2guy · Dec 28, 2011

Because of the dates, I would say it was John Witcher, son of William Witcher. William died in 1808 in his 80's. John died in 1835 I think.

Rebel - KGC · Dec 29, 2011

Well, there IS a Witcher Family Cemetery established in Amherst County, Va. in 1848; across the James River from BOTH Lynchburg, Va. and EASTERN Bedford County, Va. :dontknow:

bigscoop · Dec 29, 2011

tat2guy said:
Because of the dates, I would say it was John Witcher, son of William Witcher. William died in 1808 in his 80's. John died in 1835 I think.

Do you know what John Witcher's background was?

spartacus53 · Dec 29, 2011

bigscoop said:
Do you know what John Witcher's background was?

He was a very shady character

Rebel - KGC · Dec 29, 2011

tat2guy · Dec 29, 2011

bigscoop said:
tat2guy said:

Because of the dates, I would say it was John Witcher, son of William Witcher. William died in 1808 in his 80's. John died in 1835 I think.

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Do you know what John Witcher's background was?

I have no clue...yet! Im only 38, I wasnt around to hangout with those guys :laughing7:

HH Jay

bigscoop · Dec 30, 2011

Most likely this guy;

"Captain John Witcher was one of the most prominent men in the valley; was one of the Justices of the Inferior Court of the Cherokee purchase; had commanded a company at Norfolk, VA in 1812 and a company of Paulding volunteers in 1835 during the war with the Creek Indians, and also a company of State troops in 1838 in the removal of the Cherokee Indians. A man of great courage and resentment; a truly good man to his friends, but thunder and lightning to his enemies. He owned considerable Negro property, land __ and was an old style Virginia gentleman, and a Democrat of the old Clark school."

Rebel - KGC · Dec 30, 2011

Or, THIS guy... Major John S. Witcher, WV 3rd Cavalry... a YANK! "Bit SHADY"... INDEED!

www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvwayne/3wvcav.htm :coffee2:

bigscoop · Dec 30, 2011

Rebel - KGC said:
Or, THIS guy... Major John S. Witcher, WV 3rd Cavalry... a YANK! "Bit SHADY"... INDEED! www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvwayne/3wvcav.htm

A few years too late for my liking. :dontknow:

Rebel - KGC · Dec 30, 2011

LOL! Going by ... "It was in the 2nd year of the CONFEDERATE WAR" (aka Civil War)...

Coffee?

tat2guy · Dec 31, 2011

Plenty of time for him to change his view on slavery :icon_scratch:

. Or another John Witcher altogather. :dontknow:

Till the next post Jay

Happy New Year everybody

Rebel - KGC · Dec 31, 2011

RIGHT BACK AT CHA! Don't drink TOO much BEE ALE (Beale), tho... AND! :read2:

Read page 16 FIRST! www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page16.htm Give ya something to "chat" about... :laughing9:

tat2guy · Dec 31, 2011

Hey Rebel,

Many good reads on that link. I kinda like this one http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page7.htm

:thumbsup:

bigscoop · Dec 31, 2011

Rebel - KGC said:
RIGHT BACK AT CHA! Don't drink TOO much BEE ALE (Beale), tho... AND! Read page 16 FIRST! www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page16.htm Give ya something to "chat" about...

There was a time when I was convinced that if there was any truth to the Beale Papers then it had to have something to do with the Confederate Treasury. But keep in mind that since the time of that short article's publishing "a lot" of new information has surfaced that has made, at least in my mind, the Confederate Treasury and/or Freemasons a very unlikely candidate. Do I think either of them are still possibilities? Who knows, maybe. But based on the information that has been picked apart since the publishing of that short article, I no longer think either of these possibilities exist/existed. :dontknow: