What grade would you give this Trade dollar? UPDATE is this an error?

[cam9457]

I will be sending this Trade dollar to PCGS soon and I'm just wondering what grade you think it may come back as?

 

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[cam9457]

Re: What grade would you give this Trade dollar?

I was just taking a few really close ups and saw what may be an error? The sash coming out of Liberty's left hand looks to have two L's in LIBERTY? Does it say LLBERTY?

 

[jeff of pa]

could be Circulation Damage, an error or a Chinese counterfeit

IF Real I don't think it will grade higher then Very good


Mainly because of all the Pock Marks I see in the Close ups

 

[cam9457]

Not sure when the Chinese counerfeiting started but I've had it for about three and a half years now. How would I know if it is a counterfeit?

 

[cam9457]

Here's a few more close ups if it helps any

 

[jeff of pa]

Not sure when the Chinese counerfeiting started but I've had it for about three and a half years now. How would I know if it is a counterfeit?

How well do you know Silver coinage ?

do you consider yoursef hard to fool ?

it should be easy to tell IF you have Handled any large silver coins
other then this one

 

[jeff of pa]

all the Letters on LIBERTY Look off from each other to me.
(But it could be because of that extra L appearance.)

This is what has me wondering.

Other then that the Color looks right.

 

[Mike Silver -gold]

That looks like the real deal to me. I have seen a few fake silver dollars though. They had whare on them and they looked great. I was fooled till a guy put a magnet to them. Thats the key to a lot of fake coins and rings. Any time you can get any responce from a magnet,it is junk plated. I see 14kt ,10kt 925 all the time,and I have a small but powerful magnet that tells me they are junk. Mike

 

[VERMONTPACKRAT]

Here is a link with the info needed to compare yours to the real deal. Do you have scales to weigh your coin?
http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dollars/trade_dollars/1877_trade_dollar.htm

You also may be able to email a photo to some one to get a fast general answer for real or fake. You may just have a nice coin!!
Here is one more link that may help decide if it is a mint error or not.
http://minterrornews.com/priceguide.html

Hope this helps, VPR

 

[jeff of pa]

and unless you bought it off EBay or got it from
somone who did odds are still good it's real
especially in that condition.

 

[l.cutler]

I have to say I believe it could be a counterfeit. If you look at the closeups there are numerous laised lumps, they are particularly visible above Trade Dollar on the reverse. Maybe they only look like raised lumps in the photo, but if they are it is almost a sure counterfeit. Best bet is to let someone knowledgable see it in person.

 

[Coinkid]

Sorry, but I vote fake as well.



-Paul

 

[1235CE]

I have no opinion on whether it's fake or not but will tell you that PCGS or NGC won't grade this coin anyway because it's been cleaned, and harshly at that.

Greg

 

[cam9457]

Well, I'm just going to send it out and see what they say. Thank you for all the info and opinions