What is this old copper coin?

[jml818]

I thought it would be a large cent until i let it dry and flaked off dirt.
Definitely shield with cannons crossed on inside and some guy holding a saff on flip side?
I could not find this in The red & blue handbooks.

 

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[Trajandecius]

Greetings! I am brand new to this, so please bear with me. The smaller coin is a copper U. S. Indian Head Cent. The larger coin appears to be a copper Associated Irish Miners halfpenny token which was minted in London or Liverpool, England during the 18th Century. The obverse reads "CRONEBANE -- HALFPENNY" while the reverse states "ASSOCIATED IRISH MINERS ARMS". If dated, the date should be split on either side of the coat of arms. It may also have an inscription on the edge. It is far away from home. That's all I could find about it as of now. Nice find!

 

[Rookster]

Sounds reasonable. Welcome to Tnet.

 

[Mackaydon]

Some history:
[FONT=&quot]According the Parys Mine Company of Anglesey in Wales began the issue of copper pennies in 1787, closely followed by halfpenny tokens issued by John Wilkinson, the iron magnate. Two years later, once these tokens were seen to have gained acceptance and consequently circulated over a wide area, the Associated Irish Mine Company from Cronebane in Wicklow began to issue similar halfpenny tokers. These have a portrait of St. Patrick on the obverse, with legend CRONEBANE HALFPENNY, and the arms of the company on the reverse. These tokens were extensively counterfeited, the most common forgeries having the reverse legend changed to read "ASSOCIATED IRISH MINERS ARMS" instead of "ASSOCIATED IRISH MINE COMPANY".
Don,......
Source: [/FONT]http://www.kenelks.co.uk/coins/irish/irish.htm

 

[jml818]

Thanks Trajandecius, I found this in large open mining area, now overgrown with 100 year old trees, so it makes sense for sure.
and thats a great bit of knowledge from you
Happy 4th of July!

 

[vpnavy]

Greetings! I am brand new...

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