X 70 coil search

JOe L

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Minelab X-Terra Pro.
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Relic Hunting
I see allot on Minelab forums about different coils and when looking around for certain coils, no luck finding them. I see the standards but, at times I see coils mentioned by members here that, I can't find for the life of me. Bottom line, I am looking for a Minelab double d in the 7.5 (10.5" Double D Round - 7.5kHz) not the 18.75. I have checked most of the Internet sales companies with no luck. Anyone know where they are available? Also, Is the double d a better choice than the standard coil? Thanks, Joe
 

Well I did find them here in the USA. For some reason when I just looked at various websites they were not evident to me but, when I searched google with a specific coil, these websites came up with the proper page. Now, is this coil better than the standard? I hear DD's are a good way to go.
 

Thanks, very interesting but, I understand the smaller coil for trashy areas for separation but, why would he want a higher frequency like the 18.75 in parks if it doesn't seek out silver and copper as well.
This coil choosing stuff is verrrrry confusing.
I guess one of the reasons I wanted a DD is for the fact that more of the coil is out there on the sweep,,,, I think.
I also am receiving the dd 18.75 10.5 coil from Minelab that goes with the purchase but, I wonder what the advantages are with it other than covering an area faster looking for gold..
 

From what I gather, the 18.75kHz is just fine for finding silver and copper just not a deep. Now how much shallower, I cannot say for sure. The higher frequency is fancied by prospectors for gold but I have heard that it works quite well for parks but if you dig all signals your going to dig a bunch more trash. I've also heard they work quite well if you do any farmland detecting due to being able to cover more ground and less trash signals. I'm about sold on getting the 6" 3kHz concentric coil because I've heard it has good separation and is a coin magnet. Now if I can just talk the wife into letting me get one. ::)
 

I stand corrected on my last post...

Randy (Digger) from the other site wrote this... It should answer your questions.

The two coils you have will serve you well for most hunting situations. Concentric coils differ from DD coils in a couple regards. Concentric coils have a detection pattern that some refer to as cone shaped. Theoretically, the pattern represents the signal being transmitted from the outside diameter of the coil (transmit coil) down into the ground and "reflected" back to the inner receive coil. The target doesn't actually reflect the transmit signal. But instead, actually produces one of it's own which is received by the inner winding. Personally, I prefer to think of the detection pattern of the X-Terra concentric coils being shaped like half a sphere. Using your imagination....if you were to take a 9-inch melon, cut it in half and place the flat side against the bottom of the coil, the rounded shape of the half melon would replicate the detection pattern of the coil. A DD coil is two D shaped coils, one a reverse image of the other. These two coils are placed back to back, overlapping one another with the straight portions. The portion that overlaps is the detection portion. Therefore, in a DD coil, the detection pattern is a straight line running down the center of the coil. DD coils use slightly smaller windings than concentric coils and are typically not as sensitive. This causes the DD coils to be less succeptible to interference and are less effected by ground mineralization. So, if you are hunting in areas with moderate or minimal mineralization, concentric coils may provide a greater depth of detection than DD coils. But if you are hunting in areas with higher levels of mineralization, DD coils will help "cancel" the adverse effects of mineralization and provide better depth. Regardless of mineralization levels, DD coils usually provide better target separation due to the more narrow detection pattern.

As to frequencies..... lower frequencies provide better target response on higher conductive targets such as silver and copper. On the other hand, higher frequency coils provide better target response on lower conductive targets such as gold. Lower frequency coils provide more depth on larger targets. And higher frequency coils provide more sensitivity on smaller targets. The X-Terra 70 user has the option of using all three frequencies (3 kHz, 7.5 kHz and 18.75 kHz), as well as 4 different sizes of coils. In addition to the stock 9-inch concentric and 18.75 DD eliptical you mentioned, there are also the 3 kHz round 9-inch concentric, the 18.75 kHz round 9-inch concentric, the 10.5-inch round DD at 7.5 kHz, the 10.5-inch round DD at 18.75 kHz, the 6-inch concentric at 7.5 kHz and the 6-inch DD at 18.75 kHz for a total of 8 coil options. Naturally, larger coils will detect larger objects deeper. And, smaller coils will be be better at target separation. Selecting the best combination of frequency, size and shape is simply a matter of understanding the priniciples of what each type of coil does best.

Each of us has personal preferences based on the type of soil we are hunting, the targets we are hunting for and the ergonomic "balance" of the set-up. Being somewhat crippled up, I find the 10.5-inch DD coils to be "uncomfortable" to use for extended periods of time. I live and hunt in an area with moderate mineralization, so the concentric coils work well for me. And, since I like to hunt for old coins at old sites, I prefer the lower frequencies of coils. Based on the current availability, my choice for wide open spaces is the 9-inch concentric at 3 kHz. I have been using it for well over a year now and find that it is not only very sensitive to the silver and copper coins I find. But it also provides less sensitivity to ferrous targets that are frequently found in the sites I hunt. When I am hunting in the 4-tone, all metal mode, it makes a more distinct "low tone" audio response to iron targets, helping me to make a decision whether to dig, or not. With that said, contrary to my thoughts on the other X-Terra coils, I prefer the new small 6-inch DD at 18.75 kHz over the concentric 7.5 kHz. The DD seems to do a better job of target separation if I am hunting in local parks. In those trashy areas, depth is not the issue. Target separation is. And, the narrow detection pattern of the DD version accomplishes that best for me.
 

Hi Joe
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1-800-933-2897
in North Richland Hills, Texas which is a sub. of Dallas/ Ft. Worth carries
what you are looking for just ask for Robert.

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right now.

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Interesting topic of all my machines the first I grab for the park is the Troy X5 at 19.3 kHz its not real deep but most coins are only going to be 4-6 inches anyway its also one of the best competition hunters out there so I would think the X70 should be great in parks with the 18.75 coil. Dan
 

The one nice thing about the DD coil is the detection pattern. It's right down the middle of the coil kinda like in a line. It can help get you through some trash because it is narrower than the cone shaped pattern of the concentric coil. In my opinion, unless you need maximum depth, just about any of the coils for the 70 will work fine. If your looking for gold, that 6 X 10 is the way to go. The smaller 6" DD would be great for trashy areas. The standard coil is hard to beat for general detecting. The 70 is a great detector !!!

Best regards, John K
 

Most of the places I hit with the xt70 are parks which, as you know are trashy, so looking at a smaller coil. But, I do have an area I am looking through that is an old tavern, back in the days of Washington and I am thinking, I will have to go deep. Mostly all pines trees.
 

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