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    THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    i have been asked by the author, who is also a member here , to provide a link to an online store that has a certain book available . I would highly recommend it to anyone interested in Aztec Treasure in North America . There are some of the members here that already have this book , but for anyone else interested please check this out for yourselves. http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Word-of-...s-Your-History
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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    Sheehs $300,000 ? And here I gave away the actual location of Azatlan for nothing in here. sigh ehheehh

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    o heck the book is only 20 bucks. i would think you got that much just from the gold dust that has collected on the bottom of your shoes.
    Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. Euripides

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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT {besides that}

    Quote Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa
    Sheehs $300,000 ? And here I gave away the actual location of Azatlan for nothing in here. sigh ehheehh

    Don Jose de La Mancha

    Besides that Real , if you gave away the "actual location of Azatlan " how come I found the bent top hill ,Coihuacan {curl mountain} ?? and it was not where you said it was.


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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    And you can still hear me singin to the people who don't listen to ......
    Wolfpack forever

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    mx
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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    Good morning my good friend Kanabite: Let's compromise. Atlantis / Aztlan no. one lies under 12,000 ft of water. After the survivors left that region, coastal Spain / France, some 1000's of years later, they emigrated to YOUR Aztlan. The one which you have located and which is extremely interesting. Possibly the one the present decedent's wish to return to.

    Fascinating how close they maintained the original name Atlantis with Aztlan.

    However, if Montezuma / The Aztecs sent a treasure north, it would be at YOUR AZATLAN.

    Don Jose de La Mancha
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    With that being said , Real ,i think you would really enjoy the book, it is my favorite one.......
    Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. Euripides

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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    HI Kanabite my friend, not think, know that I would enjoy the book.


    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    Kanabite and Don Jose,

    Pursuing this line of thought, is it your contention that the Nahuatl language and the root meanings of the name/words Aztlan, are somehow related or connected to Sanskrit and the root meanings of the name/words for Atlantis?

    If so, could you explain how you make that connection.

    Thanks in advance,

    Joe

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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    man CJ ,i am not sure about that . you might try something by Gloria Farley , or Berry fell for stuff like that .i'm just a poor dumb country kid . all i can tell you is its a big puzzle and it goes back allot further in time than the Aztecs / GIANTSERPENTS BOOK helped me when i was out of answers ......its more about the truth than a treasure hunting manual. here, lets play a game , how many "natural" elephant looking rocks and or ledges can you find in this picture ? just like looking at clouds
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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    Shucks CJ, mi future coffee drinking buddy: there are many words in all languages that did not have their origin in that language, so cannot be tracked down by analyzing the roots and growth of that, or an allied language. In fact many have their roots in the tech. and religious advances of that time.

    If it was possible, I am sure that you would find many other words that came down from Atlantis which were used as the base for Aztec wording.

    One only has to look at the computer language of today in the different languages of the world for present examples of wording which has no bearing upon the structure of the present language.. It is simply adapted and added to the language.

    As for Atlantis -->

    Regarding Atlantis, I found it last year. It is on the African plate at the junction of the African, North American, and Asian plates. It is a giant Caldera. It is under the American plate, This explains why it was submerged so quickly, and also why it may rise again as predicted. (2012 ?)
    The present theory holds that the African plate is being subsumed under the American plate. While rotating counter clockwise at the apex, near Atlantis, thus moving apart in the more southern, lower areas from the American plate. I calculate that this subsuming will only proceed to a certain point then it will shear and the main plate will then override the American plate causing the overriding part to rise.thus possibly resurfacing Atantis again and in the process change Africa completely..

    Don Jose de La Mancha

    P.S. Let me know if I am wrong in any way, say in 3012.

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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    HOLA amigos,

    This was going to be just a "tag" post but have to butt in for this bit,

    cactusjumper wrote
    Kanabite and Don Jose,

    Pursuing this line of thought, is it your contention that the Nahuatl language and the root meanings of the name/words Aztlan, are somehow related or connected to Sanskrit and the root meanings of the name/words for Atlantis?

    If so, could you explain how you make that connection.
    I realize this is not directed to me specifically, but the closeness of the two names is fairly obvious even to the un-educated like me. I am sure that a philologist could discern a common root, and that another philologist could find that the two names are utterly unrelated. Nahuatl is an interesting language, but to directly link that language to the Greek-version Atlantis would be fairly difficult. There are clues that this linkage does exist however, such as the Nahuatl "Teo-" for "gods" which is so close to the Greek Theos. I know that we have covered much of this ground before, but Nahuatl also shows some "affinity" for Semitic languages, especially Phoenician/Punic. Is it coincidence that a place is named Xochimilco in Nahuatl, and has the full name of a Punic explorer Himilco? (I could point out that in Punic, the "H" in Himilco is a "hard" H, more like the "ch"found in Xochimilco; I could also point out that Himilco explored in the Atlantic.) The origin of Plato's Atlantis story comes from Phoenicians, as he explained without naming them specifically it can be deduced from this bit:

    To his twin brother, who was born after him, and obtained as his lot the extremity
    of the island towards the Pillars of Heracles, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades in that part of the world, he gave the name which in the Hellenic language is Eumelus, in the
    language of the country which is named after him, Gadeirus.


    Gadeirus is a Phoenician name.

    <Plato explaining about the names: quote
    Yet, before proceeding further in the narrative, I ought to warn you,
    that you must not be surprised if you should perhaps hear Hellenic names given to foreigners. I will tell you the reason of this: Solon, who was intending to use the tale for his poem, enquired into the
    meaning of the names, and found that the early Egyptians in writing them down had translated them into their own language, and he recovered the meaning of the several names and when copying them out again translated them into our language. My great-grandfather, Dropides, had the original writing, which is still in my possession, and was carefully studied by me when I was a child. Therefore if you
    hear names such as are used in this country, you must not be surprised, for I have told how they came to be introduced.
    end quote from Critias>

    The similarities of the story of Atlantis and Aztlan are compelling, but inconclusive at this point.
    Sorry for the intrusion, please do continue gentlemen.
    Oroblanco
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    Well, if I may, Oroblanco is closer to the Truth than Don Jose, since I am the Author and do concurr that the Aztec Gods (as well as many mesoamerican civilized cultures of Mexico) have a distinct relation with the Old World Cultures, namely the Cradles of Civilization Cultures. I never put down Ficticious Evidence, just the opposite. There is HARDCORE EVIDENCE. Does the blood that flows through your body and gives you life, your Hardcore Evidence that you exist? Let me put it to you this way, there is a Isolated Mountain within the California Mohave Desert Wilderness Area (now, thanks to the Late Senator Alan Cranston (author) and Senator Diane Feinstein (supporter), a Mountain unlike many area's that have the Principal Remains of a Highly Developed Ancient City on it, that contain over 2,000 buildings wrought out of stone, principally Olivine Basalt, round, square, rectangular, many are small (8 to 12 feet across), some are large (12 to 20 feet across), then there are some that are Temple Size (100 to 500 feet Long by 50 to 200 feet wide), some of the base ruins resemble Tower Complexes. Olivine Basalt is a Very Hard Stone, there are Many CARVED STONE HEADS (see Book), GIANT CARVED STONE HEADS (see Book), ALPHABETS (see Book), MEGA-LITHIC STONE STRUCTURES (see Book), CARVED STONE CHAIRS, THRONES OF THE SUN KINGS (see Book), Petroglyphs & Pictographs (see Book), GEO-GLYPHS (see Book). This "City" or "Town" was originally discovered in the 1880's by American Prospector's. Let me Quote from Page 51 of My Book, which is a Quote from "this Book"...."HISTORIC SPOTS IN CALIFORNIA", 1948 Edition, by Mildred Brooke Hoover, Hero Eugene Rensch, Ethel Grace Rensch, Published by Stanford University Press, Stanford, California...I QUOTE......"GARLOCK'S PREHISTORIC VILLAGE, On Black Mountain, about five miles northwest of Garlock, at the edge of the Mohave Desert, are the remains of a prehistoric Indian village, discovered in the 1880's. From the nature of these ruins, scientists have concluded that no recent tribes of Indians could have erected the village. On the inside of one of the doorways are stone carvings resembling those found on the famous Posten Butte near Florence, Arizona. From this evidence it is believed by some that the village may have been occupied centuries ago by the same race of men that built the extinct and buried cities of Arizona and Mexico."...Un-QUOTE..... then there's a add-on in the Revised Edition of 1966 and I QUOTE..."Other authorities hold that the site was not a true village but rather a religious center used during certain periods of the year and not otherwise occupied. A large scale archaeological investigation of this area is planned." UN-QUOTE........I have more, A LOT MORE...but it's in the Book...I once was a Member of ISAC or the Institute for the Study of American Cultures, when Dr. Joe Mahan was alive, over a period of years we became Friends and over those years, he recieved massive amounts of my exploration and pictures. Many of these Letters are in the Book, but not all of them..I don't have enough time this morning to keep on going on this, so please forgive me. My Friend Kanabite Bob, THANKS AMIGO, for the Help...computers are bothersome for me, hee,hee...Darrell

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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    Good morning Happy trails, kanabite, I find no fault in your data on the lost city in Calif, with the possible exception of the 'origin' and identity of the people that built and lived there. We are speaking of two vastly different time periods of a people that just may (probably are) the same, but, separated by lapsed, lost historical data of migrations over vast periods of time. Crudely as follows.

    A) Jerusalem -> Atlantis.

    B) Atlantis -> Coastal areas of Spain and France, after Atlantis sank.

    C) Coastal areas of Spain / France > North America.

    D) Migrations from the original settlements of Eastern North America --> The western states,

    E) Further migrations from the "Green Serpent " area (?) down south to Mexico.

    One must take into consideration that the climate and conditions were vastly different from today. There are huge ruins from as late as the Roman period in North Africa which indicate a much more inhabitable country than today. There are drawings in caves showing boats etc, this in an area that probably hasn't seen rain, or surface water in thousands of years.

    Also how would you rationalize the extremely close verbal relationship of the words Aztlan / Atlantis, temp. excusing the vital factor of the differences of writing it in the distant, as well as the recent past, in English. However, it is reasonable to assume that the translations were on a verbal context, or similarity..

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

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    mx
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    Re: THE RETURN OF THE GIANTSERPENT

    Darrell: I wish you the best on your book. We are not at odds, but only of a different time factor. When they arrived in the North American continent, I figuratively lost track of them and their subsequent migration across the continent both in actuality and time wise.

    You probablaly have filled in that gap. Congrats.

    Get Cj Oro and the others involved, they can be of a tremendous advantage in filling in / out the invariable rough spots.

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

 

 
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