Old gold ring

jmartins413

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I found this 14k gold ring down in Rhode Island this past weekend. I brought it to a couple of jewelry stores and they both confirmed that all 9 diamonds are real. One jewelry store said it looks vintage, maybe 1940s. The other store said it could be as old as the 1880s.

I just wanted to know if anyone here has any idea about how old this ring may be and what style it is.


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Nice job with the AT Pro. Beautiful gold ring. Congrats
 

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Do you have a pic of the 14K stamp? They had different styles over the years. If it's in a rectangular box, then probably pre 1920s.
 

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Do you have a pic of the 14K stamp? They had different styles over the years. If it's in a rectangular box, then probably pre 1920s.
It doesn't have any marking on it, the only way that I know its 14k is because the jewelry store tested it.
 

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It doesn't have any marking on it, the only way that I know its 14k is because the jewelry store tested it.
No markings mean either pre 1900 or it was not commercially made. Another way to get an idea us the cut of the diamonds. In the 1800s they were cut in a different style. Think it's an old world European style? Remember being told about it from a jeweler long ago when I got a ring appraised.
 

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No markings mean either pre 1900 or it was not commercially made. Another way to get an idea us the cut of the diamonds. In the 1800s they were cut in a different style. Think it's an old world European style? Remember being told about it from a jeweler long ago when I got a ring appraised.
The jewelry store said the diamonds are all old mine cut diamonds, i don't what what that means though.
 

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Stunning!!

I would say Victorian, late 1800's or possibly Edwardian, that would date it early 1900 to 1916, I think.
Anything before 1906 did not have to be marked but JLA kicked in 1906/1907, from then on it was a law, it was illegal to sell gold or silver unmarked.
 

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I would say Victorian, late 1800's or possibly Edwardian, that would date it early 1900 to 1916, I think.
Anything before 1906 did not have to be marked but JLA kicked in 1906/1907, from then on it was a law, it was illegal to sell gold or silver unmarked.
Thanks for the info, what does JLA mean?
 

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I'm not sure about mine cut stones, but certain areas are known for top quality cutting such as Israel. But before that it was local craftsmen. I get the feeling the stones at least may be much older than the jewelers think. The ring itself gives the impression of Medieval styling with a Celtic cross of the main stones, but that's subjective of course.
The jewelry store said the diamonds are all old mine cut diamonds, i don't what what that means though.
 

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Jewelers Liability Act of 1906

Miners cut had less facets I believe.


Had to look that up......

What is a miners cut diamond? A miners cut is a type of diamond cut common in antique jewelry dating back to the 1830s. Many Georgian, Victorian and Edwardian style engagement rings feature this type of cut because it was a popular 19th century jewelry design. The original old mine cut diamonds have a rich history that reflects the history of the diamond jewelry trade.

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[h=2]History of the Miner Cut Diamond[/h]The proper name of the miner cut is old mine cut. The original old mine cut diamonds of the 19th century were referred to by this name because the jewels came from the old diamond mines in India rather than South Africa, which dominates the diamond industry today.
In the 19th century, artisans shaped each miners cut diamond by hand. All diamonds remained hand-cut until the early 1900's. Due to the handcraftsmanship, each diamond was unique and no two cuts were identical, unlike today's diamonds which undergo machine-assisted cutting processes.
 

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Awesome find!!!
I was born in Chicopee
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Excellent TREASURE you found, congratulations and thanks for sharing.
 

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Congratualtions on the beautiful ring! :occasion14:
 

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Excellent find! Congratulations. If you have some basic knowledge of diamonds you can generally look at a diamond and see the difference in a modern brilliant cut compared to an old mine cut or European cut. There is a lot of similarity in an old mine cut diamond and a European cut and sometimes they are confused with each other but there are some slight differences in the crown and table as far as the degree of the angle of the cuts. You can find the detailed information online. I love old European cut and old mine cut diamonds. Something about them being more unique and of course the hand craftsmanship of them before all the modern equipment came along. The art of being able to make those cuts like they did amazes me and ranks high on the artistic scale similar to how watch makers hand built old pocket watches like the fusee types from the seventeen and eighteen centuries. Awesome find you have there!
 

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That is a beautifully crafted ring and IMO 1880's or earlier... Awesome find!
 

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Awesome find. I owned a pawn shop for over 20 years and have bought and sold thousands of diamonds. The center stone is mine cut. Look closely at the center of the stone. The black spot is not a black spot. It is where the point of the diamond was cut off flat and just looks black. This is the style of cut back in the day. Now they are called brilliant cut and they do not cut off the tip but leave it pointed. This is a beautiful ring and very old. Pre 1920's for sure. Great for you!
 

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