The Beale key... Found

Eldo

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The Big Reveal is like any other "Big Dig"

They ask for the convenience of a tunnel to be dug to make way for progress for years and ignore the repercussions.

Say to yourself "what if" the info behind what I have shown is true......and the flag and the statues ARE falling because of the half dozen discoveries made here about the Beale.

Then the legal ramifications of it would be the removal of any and all forms of the Confederate ideals, political structures, and the creation of an inquiry into the affairs of their financiers, their influences politically through lobbies, and the arrangement of a select electorate to manage their overbearing interests, as they casually retire on their "investment" into the expansion of their territory, under their own revisions of the laws in each local area, allowing for a separatist state to exist AT EACH CITY LEVEL. This state of Union is created by these men, who seek to see the Union wiped away, to allow for this sort of behavior, and is not geared towards the reparations of these faults, nor adherence to any legitimate solution to the damages that were caused.......

Basically the ideals of the Confederacy never died, nor did their surrender hold for a decent agreement, as the Union is still the strongest entity we have to protect our interests. The foundation was created basically after they had seen the corruption of these agreements at every level of these NY based Theaters, Publications, Businesses Advertisements, and other forms of political interests being used as a form of separatist propaganda, to encourage the argumentative vs. the reasoning of progress as a fundamental element.

That would include the exposure of a chain of command that is still operating in the US Govt, under the aforementioned Confederate Strategy related to both the Indian Removal Acts and the expulsion of the Spanish, and would therefore also be associated with the Banking Moguls that were responsible for funding numerous affairs, creating ideological pundits, and forging a bond with certain entities ahead of time, to continue their political push internationally, using this strategy as a foundation of their claim to the right to trade exclusively.

England tried it for centuries, and the men here got wind of the strategy and began to mask themselves to seem as if they were from a magical realm of a Kingdom, which neither held any interest for their men (I.E. 30 Dead Miners) nor held any interest in their founding of a state of providence for their children, and children's children......

Now after seeing the statues and statutes fall over a course of the timeperiod that the same investigation into this one pamphlet had continued in parallel course, while the ideals of conquest of a Confederate Gold Heist have continued to this day, side by side the creation of an illusion of an "immigrant problem", while a complete genocide of the natives is conducted in the "new territories" .... and you are telling me that you can't see any of this as being wrong.....

Bring it up in any discussion of history and there will be a problem that arises, as their interest was to first create two sides of an argument to begin the confusion, and was and is the technique and strategy that makes these issues seem unimportant, under the umbrella of their investments constantly pushing for their side to be seen as more sound, but are really the elements that are causing a problem......they are a mockery of an Imperialist Order and they have even charted the numerous presidents and their associates that hold a slight bloodline reference to the current and past Queen's of England. They have basically tried to dominate the affairs of every nation, beginning in this timeperiod, as an ally of the Bank of London, and its influences in our treasury. This being the assumption that all gold and silvers were kept in the court under watch by the guard of the Kingdom.

They had figured out a way to round up ALL the Gold of the nation, and cut off both the natives and the settlers to mining fairly and forcing them to be employed under their structures of labor ideals, the same ones that killed off their own men who knew about the source being hidden in the west. They knew the men would go back for more and wanted their parts silenced so they were killed. They plotted a long term affair in the Beale and decided to not use the gold all at once in their investments to make it seem like they were making it reasonably, yet at the same time "holding captives" like their assets. They hired men to bury most of it.....planning on using it for future interests, as they would all gather to decide politically how to arrange for another argument to be made that would be set off with a catalyst, to send off the majority of unemployed men to a war against a "foreign enemy" they created financially, and drove across Europe under the guise of a plan of deceit known to be from a group calling themselves "The Wise Men Of Zion".......issuing Protocols for a new century of their plans.....from their homebase of operations under the direction of Albert Pike, who documented his affairs and plans to be instituted right after the plans were laid in his Castle in the early 1870's. His publications of "Morals and Dogma" are in line with the same cut and paste documentation that is in the Protocols and was a basic brainstorming between the two who tried to maintain relations with the Vatican for support in their affairs....He wrote the plans for the 3 world wars in the run up to the Beale Papers's release......and the Beale was conducted in 1883, making it their window of operations that was all in a sequence that can be charted showing not only their arrangements, but also the direct effects shown of their affairs in EVERY stage of the US govt's direction.

This simple fact of a scandalous parliamentary tone was evident in the Beale, both in the nature of the description of the servants that Rockefeller had, and the lavish environment that he maintained in a regal state in PA. Now from here their Banking interests were channeled through JP MORGAN, himself a member of their order. They had no interest of allowing ANYONE ELSE to mine there, and after they were done in the Superstitions they dammed up the valley and flooded the gold and silver rich veins there. This was how they quickly mined so much, stealing the claims of established settlers, and selling them back to them in certain areas, while closing off the access to others, as well as shutting off the valley's river, and making it a controlled resource to be sold to farmers and cattle ranchers, who then had to pay an additional fee to have rights to use "their" water....

Can you believe all this? It is actually still happening today......

It will come to light that these men were manipulative of the whole of the economy, and that the information behind the men in their echelon and their tokens passed on in fiat, were nothing compared to the lie they wove to deceive their own men into working for their businesses. That is the Perilous Enterprise that they spoke of, stealing commodities, controlling gold and silver supplies, and then making numerous affairs public to convince others to partisan with their echelon, under the guise of security in a hostile takeover that they commanded.

It will become more apparent that there is an ongoing issue with these strategies, and the Govt will be forced to restructure their interests here to accommodate for the displacements of cultures, and their orders by re-inviting them here under a new agreement with the Spanish and the Native Tribal Councils, and that they will be forced to correct their behavior internationally, severely curbing their influence, as other nations and their immigrants in other countries progress naturally.

The haste at which these men have created the foundations and the pace of the economy alone is the obvious sign it is Highway Robbery.....and that they have no interest in permanence, more like their ponzi trimmings from the Tree of Life itself.

They are constantly making everyone live in a country that has no overall interest of unification, and support of its original citizens and their heraldry, or cultural backgrounds and have tried for years to act like they don't care.....

I am not so much caring for the issue as I am aware of the "issue" of the Confederacy and its post civil war interests in the US and elsewhere.....

I want to see the books written and the documentaries written and to see results......

I don't see that here.....
 

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I see a long line of individuals who obviously want to ignore the importance of something like this and make it into another ten cent novel ....... that's not happening.:headbang:
 

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I see a long line of individuals who obviously want to ignore the importance of something like this and make it into another ten cent novel ...
Not when you create a conspiracy theory that keeps expanding with NO DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE 1885 BEALE PAPERS.
Now you have added the Indian Removal act and the fraudulent PROTOCALS OF ZION into this amalgamated mélange caldron brew of assorted pieces of history.
 

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Why is it allowed to question and badger every post by anyone that post. ECS you need to start your own threads and contribute worth while documentation to verify your steadfast claims instead of trying to get other posters to come up with something that will satisfy your questionable mind. You have riddled to threads about every post that is posted? WHY?
 

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The Big Reveal is like any other "Big Dig"

They ask for the convenience of a tunnel to be dug to make way for progress for years and ignore the repercussions.

Say to yourself "what if" the info behind what I have shown is true......and the flag and the statues ARE falling because of the half dozen discoveries made here about the Beale.

Then the legal ramifications of it would be the removal of any and all forms of the Confederate ideals, political structures, and the creation of an inquiry into the affairs of their financiers, their influences politically through lobbies, and the arrangement of a select electorate to manage their overbearing interests, as they casually retire on their "investment" into the expansion of their territory, under their own revisions of the laws in each local area, allowing for a separatist state to exist AT EACH CITY LEVEL. This state of Union is created by these men, who seek to see the Union wiped away, to allow for this sort of behavior, and is not geared towards the reparations of these faults, nor adherence to any legitimate solution to the damages that were caused.......

Basically the ideals of the Confederacy never died, nor did their surrender hold for a decent agreement, as the Union is still the strongest entity we have to protect our interests. The foundation was created basically after they had seen the corruption of these agreements at every level of these NY based Theaters, Publications, Businesses Advertisements, and other forms of political interests being used as a form of separatist propaganda, to encourage the argumentative vs. the reasoning of progress as a fundamental element.

That would include the exposure of a chain of command that is still operating in the US Govt, under the aforementioned Confederate Strategy related to both the Indian Removal Acts and the expulsion of the Spanish, and would therefore also be associated with the Banking Moguls that were responsible for funding numerous affairs, creating ideological pundits, and forging a bond with certain entities ahead of time, to continue their political push internationally, using this strategy as a foundation of their claim to the right to trade exclusively.

England tried it for centuries, and the men here got wind of the strategy and began to mask themselves to seem as if they were from a magical realm of a Kingdom, which neither held any interest for their men (I.E. 30 Dead Miners) nor held any interest in their founding of a state of providence for their children, and children's children......

Now after seeing the statues and statutes fall over a course of the timeperiod that the same investigation into this one pamphlet had continued in parallel course, while the ideals of conquest of a Confederate Gold Heist have continued to this day, side by side the creation of an illusion of an "immigrant problem", while a complete genocide of the natives is conducted in the "new territories" .... and you are telling me that you can't see any of this as being wrong.....

Bring it up in any discussion of history and there will be a problem that arises, as their interest was to first create two sides of an argument to begin the confusion, and was and is the technique and strategy that makes these issues seem unimportant, under the umbrella of their investments constantly pushing for their side to be seen as more sound, but are really the elements that are causing a problem......they are a mockery of an Imperialist Order and they have even charted the numerous presidents and their associates that hold a slight bloodline reference to the current and past Queen's of England. They have basically tried to dominate the affairs of every nation, beginning in this timeperiod, as an ally of the Bank of London, and its influences in our treasury. This being the assumption that all gold and silvers were kept in the court under watch by the guard of the Kingdom.

They had figured out a way to round up ALL the Gold of the nation, and cut off both the natives and the settlers to mining fairly and forcing them to be employed under their structures of labor ideals, the same ones that killed off their own men who knew about the source being hidden in the west. They knew the men would go back for more and wanted their parts silenced so they were killed. They plotted a long term affair in the Beale and decided to not use the gold all at once in their investments to make it seem like they were making it reasonably, yet at the same time "holding captives" like their assets. They hired men to bury most of it.....planning on using it for future interests, as they would all gather to decide politically how to arrange for another argument to be made that would be set off with a catalyst, to send off the majority of unemployed men to a war against a "foreign enemy" they created financially, and drove across Europe under the guise of a plan of deceit known to be from a group calling themselves "The Wise Men Of Zion".......issuing Protocols for a new century of their plans.....from their homebase of operations under the direction of Albert Pike, who documented his affairs and plans to be instituted right after the plans were laid in his Castle in the early 1870's. His publications of "Morals and Dogma" are in line with the same cut and paste documentation that is in the Protocols and was a basic brainstorming between the two who tried to maintain relations with the Vatican for support in their affairs....He wrote the plans for the 3 world wars in the run up to the Beale Papers's release......and the Beale was conducted in 1883, making it their window of operations that was all in a sequence that can be charted showing not only their arrangements, but also the direct effects shown of their affairs in EVERY stage of the US govt's direction.

This simple fact of a scandalous parliamentary tone was evident in the Beale, both in the nature of the description of the servants that Rockefeller had, and the lavish environment that he maintained in a regal state in PA. Now from here their Banking interests were channeled through JP MORGAN, himself a member of their order. They had no interest of allowing ANYONE ELSE to mine there, and after they were done in the Superstitions they dammed up the valley and flooded the gold and silver rich veins there. This was how they quickly mined so much, stealing the claims of established settlers, and selling them back to them in certain areas, while closing off the access to others, as well as shutting off the valley's river, and making it a controlled resource to be sold to farmers and cattle ranchers, who then had to pay an additional fee to have rights to use "their" water....

Can you believe all this? It is actually still happening today......

It will come to light that these men were manipulative of the whole of the economy, and that the information behind the men in their echelon and their tokens passed on in fiat, were nothing compared to the lie they wove to deceive their own men into working for their businesses. That is the Perilous Enterprise that they spoke of, stealing commodities, controlling gold and silver supplies, and then making numerous affairs public to convince others to partisan with their echelon, under the guise of security in a hostile takeover that they commanded.

It will become more apparent that there is an ongoing issue with these strategies, and the Govt will be forced to restructure their interests here to accommodate for the displacements of cultures, and their orders by re-inviting them here under a new agreement with the Spanish and the Native Tribal Councils, and that they will be forced to correct their behavior internationally, severely curbing their influence, as other nations and their immigrants in other countries progress naturally.

The haste at which these men have created the foundations and the pace of the economy alone is the obvious sign it is Highway Robbery.....and that they have no interest in permanence, more like their ponzi trimmings from the Tree of Life itself.

They are constantly making everyone live in a country that has no overall interest of unification, and support of its original citizens and their heraldry, or cultural backgrounds and have tried for years to act like they don't care.....

I am not so much caring for the issue as I am aware of the "issue" of the Confederacy and its post civil war interests in the US and elsewhere.....

I want to see the books written and the documentaries written and to see results......

I don't see that here.....
WHEW!
 

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Not when you create a conspiracy theory that keeps expanding with NO DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE 1885 BEALE PAPERS.
Now you have added the Indian Removal act and the fraudulent PROTOCALS OF ZION into this amalgamated mélange caldron brew of assorted pieces of history.
LOL!
 

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Why is it allowed to question and badger every post by anyone that post. ECS you need to start your own threads and contribute worth while documentation to verify your steadfast claims instead of trying to get other posters to come up with something that will satisfy your questionable mind. You have riddled to threads about every post that is posted? WHY?
Franklin, I have started my own threads and HAVE CONTRIBUTED "worth while" documentation many times over.
You know that as we have shared information in the past.
Why do you think it is wrong to question misinformation that is presented as fact?
That, my friend, solves and proves nothing, is NOT true research and just adds confusion and false unreliable information to the discussion.
Due to the ambiguity of open ended references, it becomes easy to manufacture these "real" stories behind the Beale Party's perilous adventure treasure story, mixing facts with speculation.
These threads are full of those, and really accomplish nothing to further the discussion.
 

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You need to write FICTION before you start telling wind bag stories like that someone just may believe it.
I do find it curious, Franklin, that you singled me out with that remark concerning my obvious parody of the "real story behind the Beale story" tales that are regularly posted as fact?
This was rather tame compared to some of the outlandish and improbable posts that have been presented as fact- at least my parody was based on real facts to create that story.
 

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Who is the forum member who claimed to have inspired the Nic Cage movie "National Treasure" ? Lol
LOL! NOT a person; just their Trolls stealing our info to screen-write movies; enough "material" for NT 3-12 on here...
 

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Who is the forum member who claimed to have inspired the Nic Cage movie "National Treasure" ? Lol

They used all information from our Beale Treasure Threads to make the movie, "National Treasure." Member, HBB, Hillbilly Bob Brewer was the technical advisor for the movie, so I guess he would be the member that you are referring to?
 

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And to think... it ALL started with the Virginia Royal Governor's BOOK OF SECRETS in Williamsburg, Va (FIRST State capital of Virginia), then the Virginia Governor's BOOK OF SECRETS... gotta feed those Trolls.
 

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YEP! "franklin" knows about the Royal Governor's BOOK OF SECRETS... Burton's Parish SECRETS; "The Tunnel" to W & M; Thomas Jefferson as a scholar at W & M... being taught by a Professor - ILLUMINATI! The Virginia Governor's BOOK OF THE SECRET, in Richmond, Va. keeping "tabs" on EA Poe, who DID live in Richmond, Va.; SECRET Tunnels of Richmond, Va.; and PROBABLY about the BEALE PAPERS PAMPHLET... dunno.
 

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During Andrew Jackson's campaign in Spanish Florida, Jackson and his 30 men band which included James Beverly Risqué and Davy Crockett, captured a Spanish gold shipment from the treasury at St Augustine to Pensacola on the El Camino Real.
Killing all the Spanish, and being unable to be burdened with the gold during their raids, the gold was buried not far from the El Camino Real, in what is now Santa Rosa county, Florida.
The knowledge of this treasure was known by the select band of brothers in arms.
Jackson became the first governor of Florida, and when Risqué did not receive a requested in the newly formed Florida Territorial government, told the story of the treasure to his close family of children and grandchildren.
Santa Rosa county was formed in 1842, and while creating mileage charts for the Confederacy, James Beverly Ward remembered the treasure story his grandfather told, and secured an old period map of Florida.
After the War, Ward told his daughter, Ella Risqué, and her husband , Allanson N Caulking, about the buried Spanish treasury gold, and bought property in Santa Rosa county near the El Camino Real treasure site.
They never found it.
In 1884, Ward began writing the Beale Papers, substituting "Beale" from his grandfathers duel, for "Real", and created the ciphers, one containing the coordinates of the EL Camino Real near his daughters Florida property, after one of his sons joined his sister in Florida.
What is "VICIOUS" about this parody based on facts, Rebel-KGC?
What makes my parody different from posted tales of the Beale Party sandcasting gold and silver into bars, false bottom wagons, and Boone's Salt Works brine pots used in the treasure vault that was presented as fact without any evidence known to support these statements?
It really has become apparent that mentioning the lack of proof, evidence, provenance when questing an obvious claim based on speculation or fill in the blanks imagination, and minimal if any supporting facts, upsets a few posters.
Those who do get upset and complain about other TN members when dubious facts are questioned, need to ask themselves why?
 

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Very interesting subjects- Tell us more about Bruton Parish, please!!!
So sad how Marie's work was mocked by allowing her to dig, knowing it was just a bit little off. Thus, they protected their secret and made a fool of her in one swoop....
 

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Marie and her husband were very intelligent. She was right on with her predictions and she found the old Baptist Church exactly as she said it would be with exact measurements. She found the upper part of the vault holding the Templar Treasures but the Rockefeller Foundation shut her down. Put up a high fence and dug up everything in the cemetery. They did not find the contents in the vault though they had already been removed.
 

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Why is it that the arena of treasure legends/tales is crammed full of, "the treasure had already been removed." At some point folks just have to accept that, "the alleged treasure was never really ever there."

What strikes me as being so unusual in this is that treasure hunters are, for the most part, at least reasonably intelligent people, and yet they will continue to believe in the existence of many of these fabled treasures despite all of the evidences and cold hard facts to the contrary. :icon_scratch:

Oak Island, The Beale, etc., etc., etc.,....not so much as a stitch of provenance to them and yet they will put boots on the ground and spend their entire lives chasing things that clearly don't exist, or that they can't even establish as being real. Is it just to have an adventure, have something to do in the great outdoors? Is it the promise of fame and wealth that blinds them? I don't know, it completely miffs me. :dontknow:
 

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