The Robert and Sarah Morriss Story

[Rebel - KGC]

Garry hope you dont mind, me adding to your research
im sure most of the census info is here somewhere, but
prob wont hurt to add it here too, the 1st piece of info
was found through a link to find a grave from a Robert
Morriss death @ the family search site

sorry for the cut paste,got lazy
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found something odd @ Diuguid Funeral Service & Crematory,that
was listed in some of the memorials for Old City Cemetery @ the
find a grave


did Robert Morriss & Sarah Morriss know James B. WARD ?

........Name of Deceased:
Wife of Robert Morriss
Date of Burial:5/13/1861

Account holder typically is the top billed person in the records.
Account holder
Robert Morriss [McCarty]


Typically Diuguid indicated race only when, as he saw it, the decedent
was “colored.” In that case, Diuguid used a “c.” Otherwise, there was
usually no indication of race and the decedent was assumed to be white.
Designated Race: blank


Includes any additional information listed in the records that does not
fit in the other categories on this page.
Diuguid's Notes:
Mrs. Sarah MORRISS; paid by James B. WARD
Diuguid Burial Records | Old City Cemetery | Lynchburg, VA

EDIT sorry forgot the img
http://www.gravegarden.org/diuguid/images/books/04/D04_418.jpg


----------census 1850 & 1830.............
Robert Morriss & wife Sarah Morriss
United States Census, 1850 Lynchburg
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M88T-ZQ4

free white persons
Robert Morriss
United States Census, 1830 Lynchburg
listed on census img
1 male-10-15 yrs of age
2 male-20-30
1 male-50-60
1 female-5-10
2 female-15-20
1 female-20-30
1 female-40-50
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH54-Y4F

Robert Morris
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1822
Death Date 11 Nov 1822
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVK9-71FY


wondering if Robert Morris had a son
Robert Morris
Find A Grave Index
Death Date 11 Nov 1822
burial: 1822
Cemetery Old City Cemetery
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVK9-71FY

Find A Grave Index
Birth: unknown
Death: Nov. 11, 1822
Note: White Male
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26088010

Created by: Art Wells
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=46973972

GREAT R & I; can you find where Robert & Sarah are buried...?

 

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[ECS]

just fiction then?
i have noticed a lot of what you say here is fictional.

Please share on how you have come to that conclusion?

 

[Old Silver]

Robert Morris
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1822
Death Date 11 Nov 1822
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVK9-71FY


wondering if Robert Morris had a son
Robert Morris
Find A Grave Index
Death Date 11 Nov 1822
burial: 1822
Cemetery Old City Cemetery
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVK9-71FY

Find A Grave Index
Birth: unknown
Death: Nov. 11, 1822
Note: White Male
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26088010

Created by: Art Wells
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=46973972

More than likely the father of our Robert Morriss. I have his family, going way back. I don't have every name, or all the dates.

I may have even found our Robert Morriss in the 1860 census, but I'm not sure.

 

[Old Silver]

More than likely the father of our Robert Morriss. I have his family, going way back. I don't have every name, or all the dates.

I may have even found our Robert Morriss in the 1860 census, but I'm not sure.

Actually, the father of our Robert Morriss was Thomas Morriss. If anyone cares.

 

[cw0909]

More than likely the father of our Robert Morriss. I have his family, going way back. I don't have every name, or all the dates.

I may have even found our Robert Morriss in the 1860 census, but I'm not sure.

is his wife listed, as the diuguid site has her passed away in 1861
Diuguid Burial Records | Old City Cemetery | Lynchburg, VA

 

[Old Silver]

is his wife listed, as the diuguid site has her passed away in 1861
Diuguid Burial Records | Old City Cemetery | Lynchburg, VA

Our Robert's mother was named Sarah Garner. His grandmother was Mary Hall (she was formerly married to a Hall).
Our Robert had three sister, and no brothers.
His sisters:
1. Susannah (married Adam Mitchell, probably brother of Sarah Mitchell).
2. Letitia (married George Curtis).
3. Leanna.

Our Robert's father, Thomas was 1/2 brother of Robert Morris, signer of the DOI. Robert's (DOI) mother died in England when he was small. His father, Robert SR. immagrated to Oxford, MD, where he was later joined by his son, Robert. Robert SR remarried (Mary Hall) and had 2 sons, one of which was Thomas, the father of our Robert Morriss.
Confused yet?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

So THAT Robert Morris, Sr. had the MORRIS INN in Oxford, MD "on the Bay"...?

 

[Old Silver]

is his wife listed, as the diuguid site has her passed away in 1861
Diuguid Burial Records | Old City Cemetery | Lynchburg, VA

No. Still looking.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Well, the MORRIS INN in Oxford, MD "on the Bay" still exists & is available for "vacation time"... wife & I are thinking about it, as she is from MD & we BOTH love The Bay; then go to MD Eastern Shore!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

According to THE SCOTCH-IRISH WHO CAME TO AMERICA: A Genealogical History by Bill & Mary Durning, a MORRIS immigrated to LOUDUN COUNTY, VA in 1775 in CAMERON PARISH (p. 203); SO...?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

RM of the "Job Print" was born in 1776; Hmmm...

 

[Old Silver]

Our Robert's mother was named Sarah Garner. His grandmother was Mary Hall (she was formerly married to a Hall).
Our Robert had three sister, and no brothers.
His sisters:
1. Susannah (married Adam Mitchell, probably brother of Sarah Mitchell).
2. Letitia (married George Curtis).
3. Leanna.

Our Robert's father, Thomas was 1/2 brother of Robert Morris, signer of the DOI. Robert's (DOI) mother died in England when he was small. His father, Robert SR. immagrated to Oxford, MD, where he was later joined by his son, Robert. Robert SR remarried (Mary Hall) and had 2 sons, one of which was Thomas, the father of our Robert Morriss.
Confused yet?

There is some disagreements on the grandmother of our Robert Morriss - Mary (Hall), or Sarah Wise? Neither of these possible grandmothers for our Robert Morriss has been confirmed, but the rest I have good evidence for.

 

[Old Silver]

This is not confirmed, but it seems that Sarah Wise was a common law wife, or Concubine, of the grandfather of our Robert Morriss, and was carrying his father, Thomas, when the grandfather, Robert Sr., was killed (about 1750).

Notes for SARAH WISE:Sarah was generously provided for in Robert Morris Sr.'s will. He left a substancial amount to her (and probably his) daughter "Sarah" and another substantial amount to the as yet unborn child she carried at the time of his death. The unborn child was Thomas Wise Morris Jr., half brother to Robert Morris Jr. (Note: This Robert Morris Jr is the DOI signer.)

If this is true, then the grandmother of Robert Morriss (Beale Papers) was Sarah Wise.

 

[cw0909]

old silver if your @ or close to Pa or NJ, we
could know for sure,about our RM.and DOI signer
as those Family History Library has a copy of RMjr
Genealogy. if the Family History Library in Pa,NJ
doesnt have it,can be ordered from the salt lake
Family History Library


Notes
In Genealogy of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
-- Vol. 11, p. 3324-3411. compiled by Frank Willing Leach
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/292137?availability=Family History Library

v. 9-11 (New Jersey and Pennsylvania)
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/103722?availability=Family History Library

 

[Old Silver]

old silver if your @ or close to Pa or NJ, we
could know for sure,about our RM.and DOI signer
as those Family History Library has a copy of RMjr
Genealogy. if the Family History Library in Pa,NJ
doesnt have it,can be ordered from the salt lake
Family History Library


Notes
In Genealogy of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
-- Vol. 11, p. 3324-3411. compiled by Frank Willing Leach
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/292137?availability=Family History Library

v. 9-11 (New Jersey and Pennsylvania)
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/103722?availability=Family History Library

Unfortunately, I'm not near there.
I have already found a lot, but I do need more. I don't trust the Salt Lake Library. I've seen too much they've gotten wrong.
I have just about all these family members and connections, except for Robert Morris Sr's will. I posted a reference to it, but haven't been able to find the actual document. Like you said, it'll probably have to be ordered.

 

[cw0909]

edit didnt mean to quote

i have always wondered why the DOI, a bible was much easier to find
in the 1820s just about every house had one, it would have been an
easy key to send IE: KJV Psalms 1–41

 

[cw0909]

i dont think they could get Frank Willing Leach book wrong
unless they missed a couple of pgs when filming

 

[Old Silver]

i dont think they could get Frank Willing Leach book wrong
unless they missed a couple of pgs when filming

If they have records, I'll take that.

 

[Old Silver]

edit didnt mean to quote

i have always wondered why the DOI, a bible was much easier to find
in the 1820s just about every house had one, it would have been an
easy key to send IE: KJV Psalms 1–41

I would imagine that the DOI was prominently displayed at the home and business of Robert Morriss, so maybe the author simply used what he had at hand. That could also be the reason for Beale having used (allegedly) that document as the key. The fact that just about everyone owned a Bible might have been the reason for not using it as the key.

 

[ECS]

Our Robert's mother was named Sarah Garner. His grandmother was Mary Hall (she was formerly married to a Hall).
Our Robert had three sister, and no brothers.
His sisters:
1. Susannah (married Adam Mitchell, probably brother of Sarah Mitchell).
2. Letitia (married George Curtis).
3. Leanna.

Our Robert's father, Thomas was 1/2 brother of Robert Morris, signer of the DOI. Robert's (DOI) mother died in England when he was small. His father, Robert SR. immagrated to Oxford, MD, where he was later joined by his son, Robert. Robert SR remarried (Mary Hall) and had 2 sons, one of which was Thomas, the father of our Robert Morriss.
Confused yet?

http://geni.com/people/Robert-Morri...claration-of-Independence/5107009272950044292
NOTE: Robert Morris Sr had two "partners" Elizabeth Murphat (Jr's mother) and Sarah Wise (Oxford, Maryland) , the mother of Thomas Wise Morris.
Thomas Wise Morris, while born in Oxford, Maryland, died in France, 1778, and from the posted genealogy, unmarried and childless.

The history of Robert Morris, Jr, who came to Maryland at age 14, in 1748;
http://dsdi1775.com/signers-by-state/robert-morris

Adam Mitchell and Susannah Morris Mitchell:
http://ancestry.com/genealogy/records/susannah-morris_91758193
It appears that Thomas Morris and Sarah Gardner Morris has only one child, Susannah.

This should straighten out some of the genealogy confusion.