WAS THE CANDLE WORTH THE GAME?

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Which brings us back to the original premise of this thread-
Was the candle worth the game?

It has been made obvious by several researchers over the years that there exists NO collaborating evidence that anything in the Beale Papers narrative story occurred outside of that 1885 pamphlet's pages,..the exception being the "borrowed" extended family experiences incorporated into the storyline by Ward.
The total lack of any outside of the dime novel pamphlet collaborating documentation that the Beale's perilous adventure EVER OCCURED, and most was sprung from the imagination of the "unknown author", makes the existence of the treasure suspect, as well as the validity of the C1 & C3 containing an actual solution.

Just as no one has been able to disprove the Ward/Risqué extended family influences placed throughout the Beale Papers, or the purposeful discrepancies within that would have been obvious to 1885 Lynchburg, no one has ever been able to prove that anything as depicted in the pamphlet's narrative as the Beale perilous adventure treasure story... yet many continue to claim they solved the ciphers and KNOW the location of Beale's treasure vault.
Which brings forth the question:
If the entire perilous adventure of the BEALE PARTY is a work of fiction, then there never was a treasure outside of the pages of the dime novel job print pamphlet, what do those who have claimed to have "solved" the Beale codes expect to recover?
If the story is fiction, the ciphers are also fiction, which makes the Beale treasure vault also a work of fiction.
 

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ECS,

Just wondering here, and its your thing, not judging, but why do you quote your self. Seems to me that this is sort of like talking to a mirror.
 

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We can throw what information we have around and around. But we can still not confirm one way or the other whether the story actually happened or not.
We need some letter, some diary or anything that mentions the story being made up for sale to make money for a charity or cause. There is none.
We know we can not find any factual information to confirm the trip of TJB and his companions out West. Without the trip out West is where all of these different beliefs and text keep coming in to play by different individuals claiming a "SOLVE"
Without the proof of anyone going West there is nothing but a "FICTION STORY" left for us to see. I have went over the Spanish Archives of the Southwest during that time frame. No party of thirty white Americans or thirty French trappers ever came to Sante Fe for the Winter in 1817. So with no confirmation of them being in Sante Fe proves that the Beale Story is just that a "STORY"
All of these other tangents skewing off from the "Job Print Pamphlet" are unfounded.
All of these myths of someone "DECODING" the cipher codes is all unfounded and all the stories of KGC, CSA or anything else is far fetched. So all we have left is a "FICTION STORY" Good Luck ECS.
When you come to the end of the story close up the book.
Franklin, I believe we all have "come to the end of the story", but some find it hard to "close up the book".
 

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Nah... MORE to come. "Far-fetched"... heh. Close the "book" on the Beale Story, as depicted in the BPP. 8-) (Sunny out! SPRING! Robins out & about!) :coffee2: Seagulls flying about at SML! :headbang:
 

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If we close the book on "the Beale Story as depicted in the BBP", will a candle be lit for PV's Confederate cover story?
 

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Are you one of those Fahrenheit 415 Fireman?
As with the lone candle, burning books are not the beat source of more light. :wink:
HA! Focus was more HEAT! It was dang COLD; Winter of 1885 in Lynchburg, Va. THAT is why "extras" were "destroyed by fire"...
 

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We can throw what information we have around and around. But we can still not confirm one way or the other whether the story actually happened or not.
We need some letter, some diary or anything that mentions the story being made up for sale to make money for a charity or cause. There is none.
We know we can not find any factual information to confirm the trip of TJB and his companions out West. Without the trip out West is where all of these different beliefs and text keep coming in to play by different individuals claiming a "SOLVE" Without the proof of anyone going West there is nothing but a "FICTION STORY" left for us to see.
I have went over the Spanish Archives of the Southwest during that time frame. No party of thirty white Americans or thirty French trappers ever came to Sante Fe for the Winter in 1817.
So with no confirmation of them being in Sante Fe proves that the Beale Story is just that a "STORY" All of these other tangents skewing off from the "Job Print Pamphlet" are unfounded...
...one can not prove a fictional story true but many have tried with the Beale Papers story to no avail.
 

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