The 3rd Beale's letter

Rebel - KGC

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Yes. I looking for confirmation of C3. I put decoded text here. Punctuation done by me.

TTT.I Aot Mmis Jat Haba M B Sai Att Abe McHed Alo Sims T Piu Iro O Coio Roit M T Arost H T Sweb M M Niw McN McTar Id Suia Oat Bao D V Tic Mosot.TTT.I am Wat Ajban.AAA.Wilt Poth B Moa Ofea Thrt Sauf Sont Tao Iatt Mase Nil Hasaoi I Abrir M M Rafma Sisfo Tito I Ecrai Iot Ace Wit Tiom B Maf Toim Mafia Bawor Ont M M Jan Sarrc Opa Aorm Ifsia Ahauam Taia I H Tas W J Pauor Moiah Cotat.s h i t a cow.Tao Atas F V Awot C Toan Jotl Potot Tat Namna Fat M Wion B Brott Mao Ana Aiv L Laeo O Amsia F S Mab Fari Oeot Pesi B Sebolao Osita.rptbfbtwsrnc.Soom Oab C Lio Iiam Aosh Mob.vWaGsrrfsMmL.Wat Mra Aiens Ant Lii Boi Wital Tood Oiaf Aiw Tois Fhai.tnLbjmiftpLthtbahdtammwotNmw.Dot Tiua Art Tia Jil Tia C Iaes.FSC.Mei McHabot Tiich Wmmo O Fold Aat Aiem Lio Adin.TCD.Waii Ioni W T Bum Doft Sjri B Tos Awaw Tam Wimts.TTT.N
LOL!
 

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Yes. I looking for confirmation of C3. I put decoded text here. Punctuation done by me.

TTT.I Aot Mmis Jat Haba M B Sai Att Abe McHed Alo Sims T Piu Iro O Coio Roit M T Arost H T Sweb M M Niw McN McTar Id Suia Oat Bao D V Tic Mosot.TTT.I am Wat Ajban.AAA.Wilt Poth B Moa Ofea Thrt Sauf Sont Tao Iatt Mase Nil Hasaoi I Abrir M M Rafma Sisfo Tito I Ecrai Iot Ace Wit Tiom B Maf Toim Mafia Bawor Ont M M Jan Sarrc Opa Aorm Ifsia Ahauam Taia I H Tas W J Pauor Moiah Cotat.s h i t a cow.Tao Atas F V Awot C Toan Jotl Potot Tat Namna Fat M Wion B Brott Mao Ana Aiv L Laeo O Amsia F S Mab Fari Oeot Pesi B Sebolao Osita.rptbfbtwsrnc.Soom Oab C Lio Iiam Aosh Mob.vWaGsrrfsMmL.Wat Mra Aiens Ant Lii Boi Wital Tood Oiaf Aiw Tois Fhai.tnLbjmiftpLthtbahdtammwotNmw.Dot Tiua Art Tia Jil Tia C Iaes.FSC.Mei McHabot Tiich Wmmo O Fold Aat Aiem Lio Adin.TCD.Waii Ioni W T Bum Doft Sjri B Tos Awaw Tam Wimts.TTT.N

Gibberish, just strings of random segments, as is so common with the Beale ciphers and decoding efforts. Certainly not a credible clear text solutuion by any means.
 

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I agree, these are Fake names.

Not even fake names, just random alphabet strings, the spaces and punctuations added at the decoder's own convenience, just as you stated. There exist many-many attempted clear text just like this one employing a wide variety if suspected keys. Just saying, nothing new or groundbreaking here, just exactly what one might expect at a result.
 

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Here I put DOI KEY text applied on C3. So we could compare. Is it seen, which text is really meaningless? :-)
ost?ocoh?aaiitroaotboiteasit?toia?oittwitatfstafortclaoooaimaaotss?aifdbmtobuomttossmtrttatobbwiftootictlsawrtttoctibtbpmmcoriegwositoriknttosmetwtcabwosf?waohitifwibrbimh??bortooomaaaocaratbbiptibtbofltcforawoaakaiprtfooewlsmthbbvaorlwopafenaimaas?ttatatffaimtvsivmapdetttvmdiitwoooeentbcecitcstftisaamrwoufl?atsiletjtnhttcgtboracaivetntf?irmtmpmaaaobniaatrasatihtopeyiofmbmtsimtrsaneneeom??tstiimatjtiaciivffotiodssfwaorafsamaiitoftbisomtac?tsaihotowa??rtiornwt?atsoteptciahblansasiim?socaooer?dtmoatsooibosmjmatetcofh
 

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Here I put DOI KEY text applied on C3. So we could compare. Is it seen, which text is really meaningless? :-)
ost?ocoh?aaiitroaotboiteasit?toia?oittwitatfstafortclaoooaimaaotss?aifdbmtobuomttossmtrttatobbwiftootictlsawrtttoctibtbpmmcoriegwositoriknttosmetwtcabwosf?waohitifwibrbimh??bortooomaaaocaratbbiptibtbofltcforawoaakaiprtfooewlsmthbbvaorlwopafenaimaas?ttatatffaimtvsivmapdetttvmdiitwoooeentbcecitcstftisaamrwoufl?atsiletjtnhttcgtboracaivetntf?irmtmpmaaaobniaatrasatihtopeyiofmbmtsimtrsaneneeom??tstiimatjtiaciivffotiodssfwaorafsamaiitoftbisomtac?tsaihotowa??rtiornwt?atsoteptciahblansasiim?socaooer?dtmoatsooibosmjmatetcofh

They both are, both producing gibberish, just different alphabet segments depending on the key applied.
 

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There is a difference. One of them is framed with TTT , and has two expressions:
1. I am Wat Ajban.
2. Sh it a cow - I can't write this gibberish text. It is automatically corrected.
 

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There is a difference. One of them is framed with TTT , and has two expressions:
1. I am Wat Ajban.
2. Sh it a cow - I can't write this gibberish text. It is automatically corrected.

lol....so? Switch keys, with each new key applied new and different segments will be created. Quite possible, even likely, that you will eventually find "beale" or "morriss" in one or more of them....:laughing7:
 

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So, what KEY do you propose me to play?

Whatever you desire. Many use keys that are consistent with whatever subject matter they wish to be part of the solution. But it really doesn't matter, just select a handful, say 15,20,30 and drive yourself mad with them as you can bet you'll be able to recognize seemingly relevant gibberish in many of those solutions.....:laughing7:
 

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12 bar blues in the key of E. :thumbsup: Can a blue man play the whites?
Woke up this morning, had the Beale key in my hand
Woke up this morning, had that Beale key in my hand
When I solved all those ciphers
Gibberish was all I had, you know what I'm talkin' 'bout
Play them blues
 

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Here I applied to C3 cipher a KEY text from Shakespeare, Macbeth.
The first words: ACT-1,Scene-2;Thunder-3;and-4;Lightning-5 and so on. Got this text.

swswtagjbkdetfsrbmchaaafsibtilfortlcmwsiswtkstqfmowfatassbtfwcswwtshidhwtwhsouboamawtdswfawbdaamkfklbmsastatklbmtitehttmabtacwemwooiatwcinmttawfskwswhitwtbttifaiwwhhatnmktbptwaaqttahkwwcaawidwiotsrwcbgfibswnkwbdjwcwatlitmwftssbcdvhhlrttdmrilatlsbwbftdfdmwgpalwsdtetiwwtetlswtwctshfastiphkhlopwwtakttuhtsaasosamaeoccfwaewhattglmradobfgchlwttfilbtwuwtkfccfhcwfistfnosfdcstwmiaatiwktsrbdhbaaswwdwiwttttaatufwmslctpacwakdwitwmsbbmtwhoaatshcbctwhlwfwihamfatiafpwtwwstcawtuaksfiiteshkftdkbwcbriwtsthwhgdbogbgatsiaihrcrmttgatsaffrfhwatatahsskohhtbowhlthtwgtstlbwwtbctwtifrhwctattettottbwwktwshwtaaqasywrtfhbwwfmasasbaiwchsrwy
Well. Who dear to say that texts got by applying St. Louis 1821 City Directory and by Shakespeare Macbeth are equally gibberish?
TTT.I Aot Mmis Jat Haba M B Sai Att Abe McHed Alo Sims T Piu Iro O Coio Roit M T Arost H T Sweb M M Niw McN McTar Id Suia Oat Bao D V Tic Mosot.TTT.I am Wat Ajban.AAA.Wilt Poth B Moa Ofea Thrt Sauf Sont Tao Iatt Mase Nil Hasaoi I Abrir M M Rafma Sisfo Tito I Ecrai Iot Ace Wit Tiom B Maf Toim Mafia Bawor Ont M M Jan Sarrc Opa Aorm Ifsia Ahauam Taia I H Tas W J Pauor Moiah Cotat.s h i t a cow.Tao Atas F V Awot C Toan Jotl Potot Tat Namna Fat M Wion B Brott Mao Ana Aiv L Laeo O Amsia F S Mab Fari Oeot Pesi B Sebolao Osita.rptbfbtwsrnc.Soom Oab C Lio Iiam Aosh Mob.vWaGsrrfsMmL.Wat Mra Aiens Ant Lii Boi Wital Tood Oiaf Aiw Tois Fhai.tnLbjmiftpLthtbahdtammwotNmw.Dot Tiua Art Tia Jil Tia C Iaes.FSC.Mei McHabot Tiich Wmmo O Fold Aat Aiem Lio Adin.TCD.Waii Ioni W T Bum Doft Sjri B Tos Awaw Tam Wimts.TTT.N
 

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bigscoop

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Here I applied to C3 cipher a KEY text from Shakespeare, Macbeth.
The first words: ACT-1,Scene-2;Thunder-3;and-4;Lightning-5 and so on. Got this text.

swswtagjbkdetfsrbmchaaafsibtilfortlcmwsiswtkstqfmowfatassbtfwcswwtshidhwtwhsouboamawtdswfawbdaamkfklbmsastatklbmtitehttmabtacwemwooiatwcinmttawfskwswhitwtbttifaiwwhhatnmktbptwaaqttahkwwcaawidwiotsrwcbgfibswnkwbdjwcwatlitmwftssbcdvhhlrttdmrilatlsbwbftdfdmwgpalwsdtetiwwtetlswtwctshfastiphkhlopwwtakttuhtsaasosamaeoccfwaewhattglmradobfgchlwttfilbtwuwtkfccfhcwfistfnosfdcstwmiaatiwktsrbdhbaaswwdwiwttttaatufwmslctpacwakdwitwmsbbmtwhoaatshcbctwhlwfwihamfatiafpwtwwstcawtuaksfiiteshkftdkbwcbriwtsthwhgdbogbgatsiaihrcrmttgatsaffrfhwatatahsskohhtbowhlthtwgtstlbwwtbctwtifrhwctattettottbwwktwshwtaaqasywrtfhbwwfmasasbaiwchsrwy
Well. Who dear to say that texts got by applying St. Louis 1821 City Directory and by Shakespeare Macbeth are equally gibberish?
TTT.I Aot Mmis Jat Haba M B Sai Att Abe McHed Alo Sims T Piu Iro O Coio Roit M T Arost H T Sweb M M Niw McN McTar Id Suia Oat Bao D V Tic Mosot.TTT.I am Wat Ajban.AAA.Wilt Poth B Moa Ofea Thrt Sauf Sont Tao Iatt Mase Nil Hasaoi I Abrir M M Rafma Sisfo Tito I Ecrai Iot Ace Wit Tiom B Maf Toim Mafia Bawor Ont M M Jan Sarrc Opa Aorm Ifsia Ahauam Taia I H Tas W J Pauor Moiah Cotat.s h i t a cow.Tao Atas F V Awot C Toan Jotl Potot Tat Namna Fat M Wion B Brott Mao Ana Aiv L Laeo O Amsia F S Mab Fari Oeot Pesi B Sebolao Osita.rptbfbtwsrnc.Soom Oab C Lio Iiam Aosh Mob.vWaGsrrfsMmL.Wat Mra Aiens Ant Lii Boi Wital Tood Oiaf Aiw Tois Fhai.tnLbjmiftpLthtbahdtammwotNmw.Dot Tiua Art Tia Jil Tia C Iaes.FSC.Mei McHabot Tiich Wmmo O Fold Aat Aiem Lio Adin.TCD.Waii Ioni W T Bum Doft Sjri B Tos Awaw Tam Wimts.TTT.N

Look familiar? "tttiaotmmisjathabambsaiattabemchedalosimstpiuiroocoioroitmtarosthtswebm...." Not quite so impressive now, is it.....:laughing7:......pretty much just like all of the other commonly produced gibberish. Look, you can manufacture and manufacture and manufacture, create convenient spacing, include capital letters wherever you like, do whatever it takes to to make solutions workout for you. Hundreds before you have fallen victim to exactly the same process and no doubt many will follow.
 

Rebel - KGC

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Look familiar? "tttiaotmmisjathabambsaiattabemchedalosimstpiuiroocoioroitmtarosthtswebm...." Not quite so impressive now, is it.....:laughing7:......pretty much just like all of the other commonly produced gibberish. Look, you can manufacture and manufacture and manufacture, create convenient spacing, include capital letters wherever you like, do whatever it takes to to make solutions workout for you. Hundreds before you have fallen victim to exactly the same process and no doubt many will follow.
Agree!
 

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Not quite so impressive now, is it.....:laughing7:......pretty much just like all of the other commonly produced gibberish.
Not really.
The most important thing in deciding whether a text is meaningful is the frequency of vowels and the distribution of consecutive consonants.
Here vowels are shown as %. Decide by yourself.

C3-macbeth
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c3–st. Louis directory 1821
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c3-doi
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c1-doi
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c2–doi
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