I bought this refired pontil med bottle at tag sale . I found very little info on the net except for where it made no value can anyone help?
John, I know you can read the embossment, but my old eyes cannot make it out. What does it read?
It's unlikely that this bottle has a "re-fired" pontil scar . . . It probably has no pontil scar at all. Why do you think it does?
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The bottle is called SIMONDS PAIN CURER they ground the pontil inward you can see on this pic. The pontil bottle is made around 1869 not sure but its pontil in one form or another.
The Simond's bottle is not listed in Knapp's 2006 price guide, so it may be a rare find. Anything with "cure" on it is more collectible than the average old bottle.
I have to accept that it's got a ground pontil scar 'cause I can't make out detail in your images. It's pretty unusual to find a utility bottle like this with a ground scar. That treatment was usually reserved for art glass and for specialty items like dresser bottles. I hope someone didn't do that grinding in an effort to "improve" the condition of the bottle - like polishing an old coin.
“A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
--Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"
The Simond's bottle is not listed in Knapp's 2006 price guide, so it may be a rare find. Anything with "cure" on it is more collectible than the average old bottle.
I have to accept that it's got a ground pontil scar 'cause I can't make out detail in your images. It's pretty unusual to find a utility bottle like this with a ground scar. That treatment was usually reserved for art glass and for specialty items like dresser bottles. I hope someone didn't do that grinding in an effort to "improve" the condition of the bottle - like polishing an old coin.
Thank for the info guy's this bottle it is very odd one for sure. I talk to tag sale person i bought from he dug this bottle last year at very old town dump. He had no info on bottle said he never heard a curer on a bottle before humm . The bottle is very hard to to take a pic due how clear it is. It's pontil not machine made that's for sure. I have a buyer already for the bottle and he offered $ 200.00 it be mailed out when the check clear's.
Everything I see about this bottle screams 1890's med and by no means pontiled. Can you take a side view of the lip? You either found someone who has more money then brains or you're yanking our chains here. I wouldn't give more the .75 cents for a bottle like that without a front embossed panel. I've heard the name several times in the past and I seriously doubt its rare. Swiz
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'Glassman, you post such killer goods, and have been a prolific provider of great posts on here, I am sure that everyone here highly respects you. You are a heavy hitter bottle digger in my book for sure. Here is my take. Re-fired pontils are a mystery, What are they exactly?
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Everything I see about this bottle screams 1890's med and by no means pontiled. Can you take a side view of the lip? You either found someone who has more money then brains or you're yanking our chains here. I wouldn't give more the .75 cents for a bottle like that without a front embossed panel. I've heard the name several times in the past and I seriously doubt its rare. Swiz
couple of us was trying to let John know it probly wasn't a Pontil... I think it is a blown in mold applied lip
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