Two more US-bottles??

[Erdspiegel]

I picked up this pair of bottles at the 1945-1950 dump area.
I guess they came from a US-army mess here in Berlin.

Both 170mm tall
Embossing says "No deposit/No return/Not to be refilled"

 

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[Mackaydon]

Duraglas - This was the proprietary name for a process used by the Owens-Illinois Glass Company where the surface of the hot, just produced bottles, were sprayed on the body, shoulder, and neck (not base or the top of the finish) with a stannic chloride vapor that allowed the tin to bond to the outer surface and providing scratch resistance and durability to the bottles. This process - and the embossed notation of it ( in script) on the base of many Owens-Illinois products - began in 1940 and continued up until at least the mid-1950s, though the process is still in use today without the notation.
Don........
Source: http://www.sha.org/bottle/glossary.htm

 

[Mackaydon]

The number "4" designates the bottling plant: Clarksburg, West Virginia. The Charleston plant was opened from 1930 to 1944. The number "6" designates the year the bottle was manufactured; in this case 1936. Granted, that date seems odd for the location where you found it.
Don.......

 

[Erdspiegel]

Thanks for these excellent informations,Don.

I built me up a plan about the deposit areas there,but sometimes the 'years' are mixed.
Not very depentable at all.

Near these two bottles I picked up a peruan soda one,dated in the 30th.
This internationality could go with the olympic games of 1936.The teams brought their own stuff with or the hotels prepair the bars for the different foreign guests.
Everything possible here. 8)

greetings from Berlin, Sven

 

[Mackaydon]

Sven, I can't conceive of any American (or US company) in 1936 importing US beer to an Olympic event in Germany, a country where some of the best beers in the world are produced. Just my opinion.
Don....

 

[Harry Pristis]

The number "4" designates the bottling plant: Clarksburg, West Virginia. The Charleston plant was opened from 1930 to 1944. The number "6" designates the year the bottle was manufactured; in this case 1936. Granted, that date seems odd for the location where you found it.
Don.......

Don, is there a typo here somewhere? The bottle couldn't have been made in 1936 if . . .
This process [Duraglas] - and the embossed notation of it ( in script) on the base of many Owens-Illinois products - began in 1940 and continued up until at least the mid-1950s, though the process is still in use today without the notation.

There is a conflict with the dates, isn't there?

 

[Mackaydon]

Strange indeed. Here's the source for the plant name and dates of operation:
http://www.angelfire.com/tn/traderz/owens.html
One or both sources seem to be in error; or I'm reading the numbers (4-6) incorrectly.
Don.....

 

[Mackaydon]

And here's the source for the bottle mark:
http://www.angelfire.com/tn/traderz/marks.html
Don.......

 

[Harry Pristis]

And, here's the answer: The bottle was made in 1946 or possibly in 1956, not in 1936, according to this account. (I'm guessing they were made in Brockport, NY, in 1956 because the "No deposit" concept was pretty late.)

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[Mackaydon]

Harry,
From the info you provided, it appears the Brockport plant wasn't opened or acquired until about 1963.
And I don't see any fourth mark above the mark on the bottle. The mystery continues........
Don.....

 

[Erdspiegel]

The clear glass bottle got the 'No Deposit' mark,too.
But the bottom is embossed otherwise:

 

[Harry Pristis]

Harry,
From the info you provided, it appears the Brockport plant wasn't opened or acquired until about 1963.
And I don't see any fourth mark above the mark on the bottle. The mystery continues........
Don.....

I considered that discrepancy, Don. The intro to that list acknowledged that these were "approximate" dates, so I went with my guess of 1956. We won't know for sure, and these bottles will not be collectible here for decades. We can leave the fine-tuning to a future generation of collectors.

 

[Mackaydon]

Harry,
That works for me; we'll move on to the next discovery challenge.
Don....