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Aug 15, 2012, 09:25 PM
#21
 Seeker of enough wealth to quit my job.
OK, this is hilarious! I just checked my BOFa account( different from the one that shorted me) and I got my first bag deposit back.
I dumped two bags of nickels. There were EXACTLY 99.00 in each bag. Unless these boxes were short/over to begin with there machines are garbage. I got on my statement Bag 1- 99.30 bag 2- 98.58 looks like I only lost a few cents on that one but how n the frick do you get .58 when there all nickels? I just can't believe the machine have this much trouble with denominations... What a joke! Looks like its re roll for cash on the spot or nothing..
I just noticed 2 other deposits on the WF account that I thought were ok but turn out they are under / over a few cents as well. So basically these machines are very unreliable with denomination. So the thought that pops into my head is dump bags with pennies, nickels and dimes. Re roll quarters and halves that way they can count my pennies as dimes all day long and I won't get burned on the halves! Take that crappy curupt corporate bank that can't tell the difference between a 50 cent piece and a penny.
Last edited by Easy; Aug 15, 2012 at 09:30 PM.
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Aug 15, 2012 09:25 PM
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Aug 15, 2012, 09:32 PM
#22
I had a scare with bags last month. I always re-roll and return two boxes at a time. two boxes per bank, once a week. I discuss this with them ahead of time to make sure this is ok
Anyways, my best bank, I bring in the two boxes, they say they aren't doing that anymore. From now on they have to be in bags. Well, I hate the bags because of the float time of your money. that's x number of days I don't have $1000. I did bags once with pennies a long time back and it took 3 days. This time, the teller tells me 2-3 days. You know how long it took this time? A month! I was late on my rent and everything, it completely f-ed up my entire cash flow. I was afraid I wasn't going to get it back. But, I did. IT's all about paperwork and proof. They are supposed to give you the bag tags back that have a number specifically attached to each bag. The receipt they give you does nothing. Anyways, it sounds like that wasn't your problem anyway. Those dang machines. I don't know what to say on this one. IF you write to corporate they might just give you $70
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Aug 15, 2012, 09:39 PM
#23
I've talked about this type of bank recently. Wells Fargo was classified as a predatory lender/bank over a year ago as was BoA and others. I won't ever do any kind of business with these types of institutions; neither will my family and friends. I make it a point to make everyone aware of their practices and exorbitant fee structure. It is common for them to charge you a fee for every type of transaction including withdrawal of your own money under certain conditions. Avoid these types of banks and tell every one else to avoid them also. I have heard horror stories of how they have bought mortgages and then began foreclosure on people's homes for back water bills, making partial tax payments or being behind in property owners dues even though they were current on their mortgage. Be very wary of these types of Institutions.
I don't trust any bank.
Cheers
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Aug 15, 2012, 09:40 PM
#24
 Seeker of enough wealth to quit my job.
 Originally Posted by SilverForBrains
I had a scare with bags last month. I always re-roll and return two boxes at a time. two boxes per bank, once a week. I discuss this with them ahead of time to make sure this is ok
Anyways, my best bank, I bring in the two boxes, they say they aren't doing that anymore. From now on they have to be in bags. Well, I hate the bags because of the float time of your money. that's x number of days I don't have $1000. I did bags once with pennies a long time back and it took 3 days. This time, the teller tells me 2-3 days. You know how long it took this time? A month! I was late on my rent and everything, it completely f-ed up my entire cash flow. I was afraid I wasn't going to get it back. But, I did. IT's all about paperwork and proof. They are supposed to give you the bag tags back that have a number specifically attached to each bag. The receipt they give you does nothing. Anyways, it sounds like that wasn't your problem anyway. Those dang machines. I don't know what to say on this one. IF you write to corporate they might just give you $70
Yeah I kept the receipt they tear off the bag with the bar codes so I thought I was cool. But turns out that tag doesn't mean jack.mwhen I called 1800 customer service they couldn't even help at all I had to go to branch and that tag doesn't say denomination of coin it only says the number that YOU stated. It means nothing.....unless they lose the bag completely. I guess this can be an example for all us newbs. Don't ever let your money out of sight. And silverfirbrains your lucky 2-3 days it's 7-10 WORKING days out here it took 17 days for me to get screwed out of 70 bucks..lol , um yeah it completely F 's up my cash flow. I started with a 5 k bankroll and was completely shut down by slow bag deposits couldnt do more than 1k a week. Have 2 banks ordering me 2 boxes a week no problems but I can't dump it...... At least now I can't dump it. I'll have to see how long it takes me to dump with re rolling small amounts..ugh. This sucks.
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Aug 15, 2012, 09:44 PM
#25
 Seeker of enough wealth to quit my job.
 Originally Posted by TreasureWriter
I've talked about this type of bank recently. Wells Fargo was classified as a predatory lender/bank over a year ago as was BoA and others. I won't ever do any kind of business with these types of institutions; neither will my family and friends. I make it a point to make everyone aware of their practices and exorbitant fee structure. It is common for them to charge you a fee for every type of transaction including withdrawal of your own money under certain conditions. Avoid these types of banks and tell every one else to avoid them also. I have heard horror stories of how they have bought mortgages and then began foreclosure on people's homes for back water bills, making partial tax payments or being behind in property owners dues even though they were current on their mortgage. Be very wary of these types of banks
I don't trust any bank.
Cheers

While I agree with you this has no bearing on CRH or this situation. They didn't try to rip me off they ripped me off because of the own fat,lazy, bloated, ignorant, careless coin exchange policy did. They didn't charge me any fee. They were quick to point that out. Yea g thanks , lol
To your point I think the banks are to busy ripping us off on there predatory loan mortgage practices to worry about trying to profit off coin roll hunters. We are annoying to them that's all..
Last edited by Easy; Aug 15, 2012 at 09:46 PM.
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Aug 15, 2012, 10:07 PM
#26
Ummm...if you are behind on your taxes its Uncle Sam who will be coming for your home. LOL. In the USSA you own no property.
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Aug 15, 2012, 10:10 PM
#27
Easy, it sounds as though the coin counter at the fed in your locale is not functioning properly. I would resume re rolling if I were you, to avoid future losses.
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Aug 15, 2012, 10:57 PM
#28
 Seeker of enough wealth to quit my job.
 Originally Posted by namster
Easy, it sounds as though the coin counter at the fed in your locale is not functioning properly. I would resume re rolling if I were you, to avoid future losses.
I plan to let it " malfunction " on a crap ton of pennies and nickels... Let em count those as something else.......
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Aug 15, 2012, 11:57 PM
#29
Sorry to hear that. :-/
I have only been in the hobby for a week or two, but I make sure to bring my deposit slip in with me when I am dropping off and I do not give it to them until I see my total count.
Hope you get that resolved somehow. Good luck
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Aug 16, 2012, 12:18 AM
#30
Ask for the PM and/or audit logs for the machine that ate your coins. If they won't show them to you, ask to have a written statement from them that someone reviewed those logs (and a summary of what they found from the review).
If you push the issue, they might look into the issue and discover that there is a problem.
A Penny Sorted is a Penny Earned
Salute the LOOT
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Aug 16, 2012, 12:26 AM
#31
 Seeker of enough wealth to quit my job.
 Originally Posted by madwest
Ask for the PM and/or audit logs for the machine that ate your coins. If they won't show them to you, ask to have a written statement from them that someone reviewed those logs (and a summary of what they found from the review).
If you push the issue, they might look into the issue and discover that there is a problem.
What are those? Because they already gave me a breakdown of the coins counted as stated above^^^. I gave them 2 bags full of haves and they counted halves, quartes,dimes,nickels and pennies. I even asked the asst manager to review the surveillance footage. He claimed they cameras can't see in that detail, which seems odd but then again there cameras are not the black dome type u see in say like a casino. Those I know are more than capable of zooming in, these cameras look like stranded mounted cameras . They prob can't zoom in. Which is pretty sad that a corp like this has cheap little 100 dollar cameras
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Aug 16, 2012, 01:01 AM
#32
 Originally Posted by Easy
What are those? Because they already gave me a breakdown of the coins counted as stated above^^^. I gave them 2 bags full of haves and they counted halves, quartes,dimes,nickels and pennies. I even asked the asst manager to review the surveillance footage. He claimed they cameras can't see in that detail, which seems odd but then again there cameras are not the black dome type u see in say like a casino. Those I know are more than capable of zooming in, these cameras look like stranded mounted cameras . They prob can't zoom in. Which is pretty sad that a corp like this has cheap little 100 dollar cameras
The PM logs are Preventive Maintenance logs. The MFG of the coin counting machine publishes an accuracy/performance specification for their machine so long as preventive maintenance is performed (monthly for example). The bank has a responsibility to verify the calibration of the machine and to keep a record of doing so.
The tellers need to record the "cash" transactions involving the coin machine. Any overages or shortages associated with the coin machine are generally just absorbed because the rules for discrepancies with the coin machine are more lax than they would be for teller drawers. They do, however, need to be recorded.
A Penny Sorted is a Penny Earned
Salute the LOOT
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Aug 16, 2012, 09:10 AM
#33
 Seeker of enough wealth to quit my job.
 Originally Posted by madwest
The PM logs are Preventive Maintenance logs. The MFG of the coin counting machine publishes an accuracy/performance specification for their machine so long as preventive maintenance is performed (monthly for example). The bank has a responsibility to verify the calibration of the machine and to keep a record of doing so.
The tellers need to record the "cash" transactions involving the coin machine. Any overages or shortages associated with the coin machine are generally just absorbed because the rules for discrepancies with the coin machine are more lax than they would be for teller drawers. They do, however, need to be recorded.
Hmm interesting.....this maybe what the manager is doing today because they did say they would check with the "cash vault" tomorrow and call me but there tone didn't make it seem very promising....
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Aug 16, 2012, 09:25 AM
#34
sooner or later, its "game over" for bag deposits as this service ends due to "technical difficulties".
good luck.
keepers are minimal right now....
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Aug 17, 2012, 07:13 PM
#35
 Seeker of enough wealth to quit my job.
I'm just gonna reroll my haves.... It's not hard and not worth getting shorted plus the lag time is too much. I'll bag some pennies and nickels let them count those as something else all day
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Aug 17, 2012, 10:30 PM
#36
This thread is scaring me.. I jammed the machine today and it was 15 bucks short... Hey will get it counted. I hope that my count is right so they can credit me the 15 bucks back in my account!
***2013 RESULTS***
Dimes
CRW 3420$ : 27 Silver dimes -
MWR 950$ : 2 Silver dimes
Pennies
CRW3$ : 7 wheats
MWR 25$ : 20 wheats
Quarters:
MWR 50$: Nope
CWR 220$: Nope (repacked dumps)
Nickels
CWR 10$ : 0 Nope
MWR 600$ : 13 Silvers 3 buffalos, 1 misaligned die
Reject:
15$ Foreign money 14 silver dimes, 200$ clad, 1 silver quarter
2.87 ounces of silver collected in 2013
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Aug 18, 2012, 01:31 AM
#37
 Originally Posted by D1MES_101
This thread is scaring me.. I jammed the machine today and it was 15 bucks short... Hey will get it counted. I hope that my count is right so they can credit me the 15 bucks back in my account!
If that scares ya boy wait until you deal with the Federal Government
hahaha J/k....or am I!!? really though HH, glad to have you post. sometimes you lose some to the coin counting jam, but remember sometimes you gain some. people here have gotten plenty of "funny money" (I stick by my nomenclature!), and things such as steel cents off the magnet and even silver coins in the reject tray. Finders keepers, losers suck!
Good luck in the future,
R
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Aug 18, 2012, 02:22 AM
#38
 Originally Posted by D1MES_101
This thread is scaring me.. I jammed the machine today and it was 15 bucks short... Hey will get it counted. I hope that my count is right so they can credit me the 15 bucks back in my account!
You're screwed most likely
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Aug 18, 2012, 08:58 AM
#39
wf sent me their 'treasury management 2012 standard price list' (eff 8/1/2012) and among the services listed are:
coin deposited full bags - $4.00
cash vault labor/hour - $50.00
i've submitted bags in the past but have never been charged.
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Aug 18, 2012, 12:06 PM
#40
 Originally Posted by Agro
wf sent me their 'treasury management 2012 standard price list' (eff 8/1/2012) and among the services listed are:
coin deposited full bags - $4.00
cash vault labor/hour - $50.00
i've submitted bags in the past but have never been charged.
They started enforcing that round here. I do have a business account so I cant complain, had to stop ordering/dumping at wells.
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