DEUS HF DD Round Coil vs. Elliptical

[smokeythecat]

I got the narrower one. It also helps with the higher frequency and small footprint of the coil if you are on a competitive hunt.

 

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[Tedyoh]

I would love to see a comparison between the two new HF coils on how they perform with on edge coins.


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I have noticed no advantage of edge detection....in air tests or the field but its possible I just have not come across anything on edge yet in the field

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[Theppgcowboy]

When using a program, would you change anything in it if going from a lf to a hf coil?

 

[Tedyoh]

When using a program, would you change anything in it if going from a lf to a hf coil?

Yeah, frequency to 28 kHz is great for relics....thays really the only change I make immediately before starting

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[CharlesUpstateNY]

I tested the 9 inch round HF coil on coins/rings on edge, it slams them hard. 54 kHz

 

[fred57]

Thanks, Charles. Anybody with an HF elliptical do any testing on coins on edge?


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[skateteacher]

So if you're mainly a coin shooter/jewelry hunter, which HF coil do you get? Where I'm at on the west coast we don't have loads of history type sites to hunt so I've never really gotten bit by the relic bug. I have the 11" LF and want to complete my deus with another coil. As a beach hunter in the dry, would an HF coil be better than a LF coil? On my beaches it's all about finding the rings and chains other detectors have passed over which is why I'm looking at one of the HF coils.

 

[vferrari]

Thanks, Charles. Anybody with an HF elliptical do any testing on coins on edge?


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Smokey has the elliptical, and though referenced buttons, there is no reason that the elliptical should not hit as hard or harder on edge on coins than the round at a reasonable depth (e.g. 4 to 6 inches). However, the higher maximum frequency may affect the max depth that the elliptical coil can detect targets in general (vs. the round), edge on or otherwise. Too many variables to consider to get a definitive answer. I would say that since you are mainly hunting iron infested parks and schools, your best bet would be the elliptical for separation and since you are not going for super deep targets.

 

[fred57]

I mainly hunt coins in iron infested areas and parks/schools.


I’m sorry, I should have explained myself better.

I hunt either iron infested areas (homesteads) or parks/schools (modern trash).


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[smokeythecat]

Fred57, I took the elliptical running 28.8 khz and pulled some buttons out of a total nail patch. I like the 28.8.

 

[devldog]

Vferrari, Best of luck to you in hunting ole' Virgini. We Georgia boys wish we could find what yhall' are still able to find up there in Virginia. God's Speed to you and we'll be waiting for some posted pic's of some nice CW Historical saves.

 

[Theppgcowboy]

I have an 11 inch lf and an eliptical hf coil. I seem to have coin tones down as far as clad is concerned and the 11 inch coil. I cherry picked a small park near the town court house. 35 quarters, 42 dimes, 17 nickels, a small 12kt plated ring, and only about 10 junk holes. This park park is small, about 75 by 100 feet. The maintenence guy said i would not find much as it has been gone over a couple of times by other mders. How does this happen. I am going back with the hf coil to play before the weather turns. Oh, i used the sifter with disc of 5.

 

[gsxraddict]

This decision is way more agonizing to me than it needs to be.

Elliptical or Round, 2 weeks now and I still haven't bought one because I can't decide.

I think the main thing is on the videos I see better iron target separation at 81khz compared to 50khz, but I've never used one so I don't know if it's true. My best spots are heavy iron infested nails and rusted iron.

I was set on the elliptical coil then I saw calabash digger's video and it seemed to show the round with better separation.

Idk, I might buy just whatever my local relic shop has in stock.

 

[Calabash Digger]

hf round coil better general all around coil imo , whos gonna be relic hunting or coin shooting at such a high freq? You can try it but gum wrappers will hit so hard it will knock your socks off ! lol

 

[Tedyoh]

I have the elliptical now....I may sell it and get the round......the main advantage of the elliptical would be for prospecting small nuggets, the higher frequency will pick them up better and or see smaller nuggets. The reason I originally bought the elliptical is I thought it would separate better....it does not (compared to my LF 9" round)

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[smokeythecat]

MY HF elliptical does best in nail patches.

 

[CharlesUpstateNY]

So if you're mainly a coin shooter/jewelry hunter, which HF coil do you get? Where I'm at on the west coast we don't have loads of history type sites to hunt so I've never really gotten bit by the relic bug. I have the 11" LF and want to complete my deus with another coil. As a beach hunter in the dry, would an HF coil be better than a LF coil? On my beaches it's all about finding the rings and chains other detectors have passed over which is why I'm looking at one of the HF coils.

80 kHz is going to be too much for the dry sand, the 9 inch round HF at 54 kHz already smacks gold this small, very small gold chains and gold stud earrings. At 80 kHz you are going to hit every little speck of foil.

 

[Obsessive]

I've been running an HF elliptical @ 28 kHz for general hunting often in trashy local parks. I do like that it gets in tight places and helps to separate between multiple targets in very close proximity to one another - not talking the same hole but next to each other. Still hoping to get out and do some nugget hunting with it, but hasnt really happened yet. Figured I'd use it any chance I could to help figure it out though. Got a few programs set up in order with the same settings but different frequencies, includiong a GF program. I do find it helpful switching between them to better help understand a target.

I'll add that even at 28, super small foil targets are ringing in clear and usually come up in a mid 50s id.

All this talk and do I still want a round HF? Yes. I debated for a while before I bought the elliptical and bet that if I bought the round first, now Id be wanting an elliptical.

Anyway... xmas is near. Happy hunting to all, and to all a good place.

 

[gene the machine]

i got the elliptical and felt it was like a laser beam. it is so narrow and fast that i had to go creepy slow in heavy iron and trash. i could pass a target and not hear it for a bit and then realize i had passed one and had to go back and it was hard to find it again. I got the round HF and like it better but this was just me so tread lightly as i haven'd had much time on either one. GL & HH

This decision is way more agonizing to me than it needs to be.

Elliptical or Round, 2 weeks now and I still haven't bought one because I can't decide.

I think the main thing is on the videos I see better iron target separation at 81khz compared to 50khz, but I've never used one so I don't know if it's true. My best spots are heavy iron infested nails and rusted iron.

I was set on the elliptical coil then I saw calabash digger's video and it seemed to show the round with better separation.

Idk, I might buy just whatever my local relic shop has in stock.

 

[RustyGold]

I have the HF Elliptical Coil and use it at my SoCal beaches and it worked so well that I have to add the 9" round HF coil too.