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    Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    Hey everyone have a question for anybody familar with dowsing. I'm wondering if anyone has any experience using any dowsing equipment from Simmons Scientific http://www.simmonsscientificproducts.com/products.html I'm specific looking for more info if anyone has personally used or knows anyone that has used specificly the PMR-II or the PMR-III. I was thinking of purchasing one of them to add to my metal detecting arsenal. If anyone has any more info on them other than what they say about them on their web site I would appreciate any insight from actual users out there if there are any. Thanks For Your time everyone!!!

  2. #2
    au
    Aug 2008
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    It will do exactly what they promise as at the top of todays technology. THere is no technology other than metal detectors . Lshaped coat hangers worth a few cents each have come a long way since suckers were born. The ad does not promise to find gold or any other treasures or has ever found any it just comments it is at the top of the ladder in tizzing up coat hangers. . Max

  3. #3
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    Belief Systems are Faith Based - Science Works No Matter What You Believe

    Aug 2009
    Planet Earth
    (G&T-C) = gullible and technically-challenged
    224

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    Quote Originally Posted by aussie 1
    It will do exactly what they promise as at the top of todays technology. THere is no technology other than metal detectors . Lshaped coat hangers worth a few cents each have come a long way since suckers were born. The ad does not promise to find gold or any other treasures or has ever found any it just comments it is at the top of the ladder in tizzing up coat hangers. . Max
    Max is exactly correct. There is no real science or technology involved in the PMR-II or anything resembling such a device. You can save yourself a lot of money by bending a piece of scrap wire into an "L" shape and using it to try and find treasure. I guarantee the bent wire will work precisely as well as dowsing contraptions costing hundreds or thousands of dollars more.
    Best regards,
    Ted

  4. #4
    us
    lock on

    Jul 2007
    The Motor City
    L-rod / Y-rod / pendulum / angle rods / wand (bobber) Tesoro Cortes, Garrett Ultra GTA 500, Discovery TF900 and Fisher Gemini III 2-box
    807
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    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    Treasure hunting tools don't always work for everyone, including electronic metal detectors.
    KellyCo sells the Simmons rods (Anderson locators) and offers your money back within a time limit.
    It's your money. The best way for you to know if any instrument works or works better than another one is for YOU to operate them. Please let us know what works better in your opinion, a coathanger or the PMR instrument.
    Jon
    "Let Thy Hand, Oh God, guide me through the ways Thou seest are needed for those that seek to know Thy way through any effort of mine."

  5. #5
    au
    Aug 2008
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    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    It is not what you use as a dowsing rod but WHEN
    IN the dowsing section I have posted a chapter out of a book I wrote in 1985 on discovering the secrets of mental dowsing. THis particular chapter revolves around my first discoveries and how and when to dowse.
    With the suns solar flares which are responsible for dowsing beginning to again come to life dowsing may again be possible soon. Or it may be impossible to dowse for a century to come.
    The sun 11 year cycles in the nineteenth century were almost nil. The 20th century was good for dowsing with the last days to successfully dowse was in the month of June 2004.
    It is not what you hold in your hand to dowse it is WHEN you dowse that you have to learn.
    Unfortunately when dowsing is impossible, quick rich shysters come out in droves.
    Find my posting in dowsing under Dowsing in 1985 and learn and keep a tight hold on your wallet. Regards max

  6. #6
    ie
    Apr 2008
    On da money
    Mermet brass pendulum; Aqua Locator (antique), Luddite Skeptic detector
    176

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    Is there anyone here who can point to how we might correlate solar flare in the 2nd millennium with major dowsing periods such as when De Re Metallica was written, when the German dowsers were brought to England to successfully locate mines etc etc.

    Is there any way of showing solar flare history in terrestrial phenomenae?

  7. #7
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
    Northern Nevada
    Dowsing Rods and a Ranger Tell Examiner
    7,819
    250 times

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    This is the web site that I check….http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/today.html…Years ago I went from that web page and now every time there is a solar flare I receive an e-mail….I don’t remember how I did it so if anyone knows anything about this please post it. When ever we have another solar flare I will get the web number and post it… I watch the graph called Estimated KP….Art

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    au
    Aug 2008
    152
    2 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    I have been quiet on net for 6 years cause there just was no dowsing to be had. Millions were probably spent on fancy doo daas to copy dowsing which have 99.95 % failed. The other .05% succeeded partially if you lived in the extreme northern hemisphere and a small solar flair eventuated
    and by a co-incident you happened to have a dowsing rod in your hand or any type of antenna and were obeying all laws of nature in regards to dowsing. You might have had partial unrepeatable success for short periods combining with short bursts of solar flares generating in your direction.
    A fellow dowser 100 miles away may have had no luck whatsoever.

    I recall in the 80s when solar flares bounced across the moon and smothered earth on the moon side and powered dowsing rods day in and day out for weeks. Dowsers advertised water finding in rural papers ( including myself) travelled hundreds of miles and 75% of the time found water for farmers and desperate vegy growers.

    Then the solar flares commenced to peter out and a two hundred mile journey to a remote farm would leave the farmer dissappointed and me with a blinding headache an empty pocket and a flu like condition for days for dowsing without power.

    At about that time I was a fanatical fisherman with about 50 years experience and was contemplating giving up the sport as I usuall ended up woith flu like conditions for days after a weekend fishing.

    I didnt know that I was inadvertantly dowsing subconsiously down my fishing lines for imminent bites.
    Once I worked out where my problems after a weekend fishing came from I was soon fishing at every opportunity in a 16 foot tinny again with a 70 HP yamana pushing me along and having no problems with aftermath headaches and a foggy head.

    For the past 6 years of dowsing inactivity whenever I spy even a partial moon at day or night I will find a dowsing rod immediately and check out if we have a bit of power. No luck whatsoever since June 2004.

    Years ago I tried to become independant of solar power and did scores of failed experiments, of which dozens ended up on the markets as Gods gifts to dowsers by unscrupulous traders.

    The more they charged with fancy attatchments, the richer the purchaser feels they will become. Even you Art, admit you possess of have tried seven different LRLs.

    If you wanna be a dowser , listen to some sound advice . Wait for impending Solar flares.
    For the first time in 6 years we have had dozens of useless small flares in recent weeks and one big one. Several months ago we had one of the largest solar flares recorded for decades, however it was on the other side of the earth and missed us completly.

    When the time comes I will sing out loud and clear. Grab your rods and get outside under a moon if at night or still outdoors in the daytime keeping your head covered from UV destroying rays.
    Evenings and mornings not much problem.
    I definitely map read outdoors. Indoors with the tiled roof baffling your dowsing you are wasting your time. An iron roof is ok.

    Good luck in the near future, Max

  9. #9
    au
    Aug 2008
    152
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    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    I hate to sound a killjoy, but everytime I post a bit of commonsense on this web I get no replies.
    Yet lrl subjects receive hundreds if not thousands of posts of hope on what they know are fraudalent
    sales of rubbish capitalising on human nature that may in one out of umpteen thousand cases their particular box of junk will work, and make them a millionare without study, hard work and sweat. I guess I am describing human nature in general.. Regards Max

  10. #10
    au
    Aug 2008
    152
    2 times
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    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    Judy , you are quite correct. Every one gets desperate when dowsing fails. It has been around for thousands of years , but not for the past 6 years. regards max

  11. #11
    us
    Aug 2011
    7

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    As I read the pat answers to the dowsing experiences, several believing it is mostly hoax, I realize even more that the mysteries of the body and magnetics, has forgotten more in two minutes than we will ever learn. My first experience with a rod was that it pointed at the rear of my friends house three different times from different angles. I chuckled it off with him, and went on my way.
    A few days later, I saw my friend, and he stated that his neighbors went to the rear of their house (kitchen) and withdrew a large can of silver dollars for him to evaluate the dates! As far as a common coat hangar, they don't point to anything unless you are in motion, and they will react to every ole piece of rusty iron you can think of. If you walk while holding one it will point to a hundred things. they are more of a reactor to pipes and do cross over anything right under you. There is an art to making a rod. It runs into proper balance,etc. Beyond these observations, it gets into magnetics. Perhaps solar flares do affect it. I do know that moist, chilly air affects it favorably.

  12. #12
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
    Northern Nevada
    Dowsing Rods and a Ranger Tell Examiner
    7,819
    250 times

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    You are correct tumbleweed509..they are a mystery but also a fascinating hobby...There are solutions to most of the things you stated..Baiting the rods is one of them...Dowsing takes a lot of practice until you learn just what the rods are telling you.. Art

  13. #13

    May 2008
    Nanaimo, B.C. Canada
    White's 4900 DL Max, Tesoro Deleon
    1,374
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    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?



    The manufacturer HAS baited the rods ...





    ... and they are hoping to land a big fish.

  14. #14
    us
    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
    Northern Nevada
    Dowsing Rods and a Ranger Tell Examiner
    7,819
    250 times

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    ~Saturna~
    The manufacturer HAS baited the rods ...
    Yes they do but it is much cheaper to make your own..Art

  15. #15
    ca
    Oct 2011
    1
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Dowsing Anybody Ever Use Equipment From Simmons Scientific PMR-II or PMR-III?

    Hi! I did bought the universal antenna rod 16 years ago,and have had a very good to excelent services from it,it is picking up readings from as far as 2-3 miles for what i could experienced . You have to learn to work with it ... The Larger the Cache The better the readings but still weather and moon fases Are to watch.

    Your devoted best treasur hunter ever.

 

 
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