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  1. #1
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    Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Hi Everyone,

    I have a quick question. Does anyone know of any good site for id'ing Chinese Chop Marks?

    I purchased 9 pieces of Chinese art VERY reasonably and all appear to be original and from the 1950's or before. All 9 are similar. I now have the fun of trying to id them.

    Any help will be appreciated. Below are some pics of one of the images. The last pic has been adjusted to make the mark easier to see. I can't tell if it is on paper of cloth. It looks almost like it has a VERY tight weave. I also think that these are in their original frame. On the back is has:

    Holland Frame Shop
    1025 First Avenue
    New York 22
    PLaza 3-7758


    Thanks,
    Doug




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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Quote Originally Posted by turtlefoot13
    Does anyone know of any good site for id'ing Chinese Chop Marks?
    I thought the word chop marks was only used on trade coins from the early 1900's.

    I may be wrong but these are signitures rubber stamped into the the art (actually carved ivory stamps) I see you are in NY go to china town over by little italy. Look for an old "herbal" type shop. This is probably an older style "alphabet" that an older person could only read. I don't know Chinese, so sorry. If this was Japanese I know people who could help. (there are only 4 alphabets in Japanese)
    at yard sales I am dollardan
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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    More than likely the stamp is the name of the artist
    The more one learns the more he understands his ignorance. I am simply an ignor ant man trying to lessen his ignorance
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  5. #4
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    Aug 2009
    The Ozarks, Missouri
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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Thanks for the replies! I appreciate it. Now to figure out the artist...

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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Quote Originally Posted by turtlefoot13
    Thanks for the replies! I appreciate it. Now to figure out the artist...
    I figuered it out, reads right to left & top to bottom

    CHA
    REE
    CHAN
    at yard sales I am dollardan
    on ebay I am the-howto-guy

  7. #6
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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Thanks Cyberdan! I now have a starting point.

    Doug

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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Quote Originally Posted by turtlefoot13
    Thanks Cyberdan! I now have a starting point.
    Say it fast a few times.
    Also, I forgot to put a after the "translation"
    at yard sales I am dollardan
    on ebay I am the-howto-guy

  9. #8
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    Jun 2010
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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Sorry, not sure how to post a new question.
    I have an old chop I am trying to date, I think late 1800's, early 1900's. I am hoping the style of the lettering will help to date it. Any ideas?
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  10. #9
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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberdan
    Quote Originally Posted by turtlefoot13
    Thanks for the replies! I appreciate it. Now to figure out the artist...
    I figuered it out, reads right to left & top to bottom

    CHA
    REE
    CHAN
    Partially right...try:
    WON
    HUN
    LO
    The more one learns the more he understands his ignorance. I am simply an ignor ant man trying to lessen his ignorance
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  11. #10
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    Aug 2009
    The Ozarks, Missouri
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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    I don't know about yours. I still haven't found any information about mine. Every site online that I have been on is either a dead end or "no relpy" on emails. Good luck. If you get yours id's please post on here where you got it done.

    Doug

  12. #11
    us
    Feb 2009
    Raleigh NC
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    Re: Site or reference for identifying Chinese Chop Marks

    Cyberdan is right, chopmarks are the countermarks on the coins - mostly pre 1900s. the best reference for that is a 1980s book by F. M. Rose - Chopmarks - sometimes shows up at online auctions... Red ones are the signature of the artist very hard to identify... but overall a very beautiful piece...

 

 

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