PENNYS AND NICKELS WORTH MORE MELTED DOWN

mad4wrecks

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WASHINGTON -- Given rising metal prices, the pennies and nickels in your pocket are worth more melted down than their face value. That has the government worried.

U.S. Mint officials said Wednesday they were putting into place rules prohibiting the melting down of 1-cent and 5-cent coins. The rules also limit the number of coins that can be shipped out of the country.

"We are taking this action because the nation needs its coinage for commerce. We don't want to see our pennies and nickels melted down so a few individuals can take advantage of the American taxpayer," Mint Director Edmund Moy said in a statement.

Officials said they had received a number of inquiries from the public in recent months concerning the value of the metal in the coins and whether it was legal to melt them.

The new regulations prohibit the melting of 1-cent and 5-cent coins, with a penalty of up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000 for people convicted of violating the rule.

The rules also require that shipments of the coins out of the country be for legitimate coinage and numismatic purposes and cap the size of any one shipment to $100 worth of the coins.

Because of the prevailing prices of copper, zinc and nickel, the cost of producing pennies and nickels exceeds the face value of the coins.

A nickel is 25 percent nickel and 75 percent copper. The metal in one coin costs 6.99 cents for each 5-cent coin. When the Mint's cost of producing the coins is added, the total cost for each nickel is 8.34 cents.

Modern pennies have 2.5 percent copper content with zinc making up the rest of the coin. The current copper and zinc in a penny are worth 1.12 cents. The cost of production drives the cost of each penny up to 1.73 cents.

Pennies made before 1982, which are still in circulation, would be even more lucrative to melt down because they contain 95 percent copper and only 5 percent zinc. The metal value in those coins is 2.13 cents per coin, Mint officials said.

The new regulations are being published in the Federal Register and will go into effect as interim rules which will not become final until the government has a chance to consider possible modifications based on public comments
 

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That's some interesting information GDaddy...I wish the mint would stop producing the one cent coin - totally worthless - the economy could do withtout the penny, just round everything up a few cents.

I don't like the paper dollar bill either, I wish they would go strictly coins for the dollar - the paper bills clutter up your wallet/purse and just get in the way of real money.

I'd also like to see a $500.00 dollar bill - now THAT would pack a punch!

Thanks for listening...Night Stalker
 

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In 15 years i have dug up about $200.00 dollars in pennies. never thought of melting them down. ;)
 

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aa battery said:
In 15 years i have dug up about $200.00 dollars in pennies. never thought of melting them down. ;)

Then you never read what Exanimo said oh so many years back!

TD
 

kd8hf

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Isn't that a supprise, that it costs the man more to make the coin than it's worth. :)
 

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kd8hf said:
Isn't that a supprise, that it costs the man more to make the coin than it's worth. :)
Now your getting it.It sounds criminal doesn't it? I mean what's wrong with this picture? How long are we supposed to put up with an inept form of government that continually wastes so much of our money? The U.S.Mint and the Treasury should be held accountable.But we know the culprit is the Federal Reserve.Actually the Federal Reserve isn't even a government entity,it's privately owned! Check it out! http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm .I also recommend that you read "The Creature From Jekyll Island" by G.Edward Griffin.It's a very interesting read!
 

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So metals prices take a dip at the end of the week. Propping up the dollar are we? By sellling some metal are we? Be interesting to see who the sellers are. Gee, seems like that might last for a week or two. I think there are some buyers out there these days. I'm not going to get any options, but kind of sounds like it might be a fun ride for some astute traders in the metals markets over the next month or two.
 

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I recall the time when it was against the Law to melt down silver coins.
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diggummup said:
kd8hf said:
Isn't that a supprise, that it costs the man more to make the coin than it's worth. :)
Now your getting it.It sounds criminal doesn't it? I mean what's wrong with this picture? How long are we supposed to put up with an inept form of government that continually wastes so much of our money? The U.S.Mint and the Treasury should be held accountable.But we know the culprit is the Federal Reserve.Actually the Federal Reserve isn't even a government entity,it's privately owned! Check it out! http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm .I also recommend that you read "The Creature From Jekyll Island" by G.Edward Griffin.It's a very interesting read!

They more than make up for it with the paper money. What is it like 7 cents worth of material in each bill, Weather it is a one or a hundred! As cheap as the penny is made today I am surprsed at reading this.
 

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damz68 said:
diggummup said:
kd8hf said:
Isn't that a supprise, that it costs the man more to make the coin than it's worth. :)
Now your getting it.It sounds criminal doesn't it? I mean what's wrong with this picture? How long are we supposed to put up with an inept form of government that continually wastes so much of our money? The U.S.Mint and the Treasury should be held accountable.But we know the culprit is the Federal Reserve.Actually the Federal Reserve isn't even a government entity,it's privately owned! Check it out! http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm .I also recommend that you read "The Creature From Jekyll Island" by G.Edward Griffin.It's a very interesting read!

They more than make up for it with the paper money. What is it like 7 cents worth of material in each bill, Weather it is a one or a hundred! As cheap as the penny is made today I am surprsed at reading this.
Good Point! :)
 

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Well, I've been reading numerous articles saying that the value of our money is dropping and the price of Gold always shows the opposite of what the economy is doing. I guess it's just getting to the point of almost 'hopelessness' for those who are keeping up with the information regarding coinage and other types of money. It seems that since this site is focused on the finding of lost money and treasure, we keep up to date on it the best. Hopefully these changes in our economy are provoking a lot of the TH'ers on T-Net to assess and regroup their plans for the future. I believe the investing in precious metals and the methods of acquiring them will become priceless as more time passes. Treasure Hunting can provide an endless amount of monetary security if enough time, study, and patience is invested into it... though I'm afraid that this will also destroy the historical value of the coins and metals found by us in the future. Guess we'll just have to invent different ways to maintain the foundation by which each of us live.

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It is getting so bad that here in Oklahoma, when meth heads or other such bottom feeders move out of rental housing, they strip all copper pipe and fittings from it when they go. People have been caught stealing fixtures from churches, and bronze and other statuary as well.

War time economy, ya know.

I for one do not want to see the penny done away with. I would like to see another "war era" steel penny issue.
 

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Iv'e got a bucket that has about 5000 zinc pennies that are so badly corroded that
most of them have lost 10% to 50% of there weight. Almost all of them dug in parks and salt water beaches. Any ideas on what to do with this 20 pound mess?
 

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Can you try to tumble them? They may still look ok to use again. Good Luck:)

Gary
 

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Sonoma County Mike said:
Iv'e got a bucket that has about 5000 zinc pennies that are so badly corroded that
most of them have lost 10% to 50% of there weight. Almost all of them dug in parks and salt water beaches. Any ideas on what to do with this 20 pound mess?

I would put em in rolls and deposit them in your bank account ;) let the bank worry about it.

I did find this page about mutilated currency .. cant find anything about coin tho but I wouldnt think it is any different.

http://www.moneyfactory.gov/section.cfm/8/39

cheers
 

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