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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    Or knight's Templars treasure, Tsk tsk
    better call the Lagina brothers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMAUDIGGER View Post
    Looking closer, it’s clearly habitat enhancement.
    In the picture below you can tell the paths were made by a tractor pulling an implement. Even did a half figure eight to make a turn at the upper left...
    Attachment 1657518

    Then there is the fact that it was only disturbed in the thickest parts of the sagebrush patches, evidenced by the enhanced picture below.
    Attachment 1657519

    It’s land management activities. In the old days they would just burn it off. Now they have to take every species (except humans) into consideration.

    CASE CLOSED
    As i stated did you check the DFW ? They do not want to destroy the sage brush it is being taken over by evasive weeds/encroachment/and wild fires i don't believe this is a common practice they use to enhance sage grouse habitat. When a mountain covered with sage brush burns weeds over take it and it takes many many years for native plants and sage brush to come back.
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    An ancient slough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mine Shaft View Post
    As i stated did you check the DFW ? They do not want to destroy the sage brush it is being taken over by evasive weeds/encroachment/and wild fires i don't believe this is a common practice they use to enhance sage grouse habitat. When a mountain covered with sage brush burns weeds over take it and it takes many many years for native plants and sage brush to come back.
    I have no clue as to where this area is located. Why would I call DFW?

    Yes Cheatgrass and invasive weeds are a concern, however if the sagebrush is allowed to become very dense, wildfires burn with soil sterilizing temperatures, which is much more damaging than disc’ing, mowing, cabling, ect. It’s possible they sprayed those paths with herbicide or planted native grasses in the disturbed areas. Lots of options that are better than a “strictly hands off approach” I think.

    Land management is kind of an evolving science that involves a multitude of different treatment methods.

    Controlled low intensity burns are also used.

    Here is the USFS current policy on Sagebrush management.

    https://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs/rmrs_gtr322.pdf

    We will never know for sure until the guy that posted this message follows through or discloses the location. I’m ok with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    Ok, I'll retract the "knights templar" locker room talk jab, if you'll retract the "troll" jab, agreed ?
    No Problem Tom, Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    IMAUDIGGER: Great sleuthing work.
    Thank you for the compliments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mine Shaft View Post
    Hi Goldstar1, what does that area look like today on google maps or earth ? thanks. The photos i posted are not game trails or grazing i think its a die off of a certain plant or something but i cant be sure.
    It still looks the same in the sat images .
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMAUDIGGER View Post
    Looking closer, it’s clearly habitat enhancement.
    In the picture below you can tell the paths were made by a tractor pulling an implement. Even did a half figure eight to make a turn at the upper left...
    Attachment 1657518

    Then there is the fact that it was only disturbed in the thickest parts of the sagebrush patches, evidenced by the enhanced picture below.
    Attachment 1657519

    It’s land management activities. In the old days they would just burn it off. Now they have to take every species (except humans) into consideration.

    CASE CLOSED
    Thanks for enhancing the lines. Your is a good idea its possible but far from case closed. The biggest problem with it is that none of the vegetation/brush is disturbed , no broken branches , no brush piles, no compacted dirt, no tracks , no tilled soil . As i have said when you are actually on the ground there you would never really know the lines are there unless you can see it from a vantage point or the hill like in the last picture.
    No it is not in a state mentioned in the STEP study map.
    I am open to your idea but I would have to see another matching pattern area as I would think they would have used the same method in other areas. Also at least to me and I dont really know anything about habitat management, it doesn't really look like it would really do anything to help a species that lived in that environment for 1000s of years, and same with fire mitigation it really doesnt seem like it would help at all.

    Please post any pictures you can find that would match these patterns for habitat or wildlife management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lairmo View Post
    what area?
    He does not seem to want to let us know what area he is in or what state he is from....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keppy View Post
    He does not seem to want to let us know what area he is in or what state he is from....
    No I do not. Sorry it is to close to important areas I am working with , nobody goes anywhere near there and I would like to keep it that way. I hope you can understand that.
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  11. #56

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    Burning, mowing, spraying are all methods used to treat invasive weeds. A pattern like that would mitigate erosion problems. The benefit to wildlife is the transition zones created between feed and cover. Old mature sagebrush shuts out native grasses and does not provide the same forage as young sagebrush does. The reduction in sage brush density reduces the fire intensity. I believe that type of environment takes a long time to adjust to disturbances, but I’m no expert.

    Why would I spend time calling gov. Agencies or searching the internet for pictures when the OP could pick up the phone and get his desired answers in a definitive way?
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    Does anyone have any ideas on the worm things ? all jokes aside , no I do not think they are actual worms or anything I am just calling them that for lack of a better word to describe them. Its odd that they dont show up in any of the GE sat images until 2004 then they are in all the different sat images until sept. 2011 then in oct. 2011 they are gone but the lines show up and they are not seen again in any future sat images. Maybe totally unrelated but I am open to any ideas.

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    Are you open to calling the local ranger station (assuming this is USFS administrated land)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMAUDIGGER View Post
    Are you open to calling the local ranger station (assuming this is USFS administrated land)?
    I dont see why not , but I think it is actually BLM land that borders USFS , there is no signs or anything so its hard to say which it is but i could find out for sure. What would you suggest I ask ? would there be a public record of activities they have done in the area?

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    Well, if your site visit left you still doubting an easy explanation, I’d learn township, range, section and the administering agency (USGS Topo Quad). Call the local office and talk to the receptionist, explaining you were out hiking and found weird paths in the sage brush and you were wondering if they had done any treatment projects in that area. Ask for an e-mail address for someone that might be able to answer your question.

    Send them a screenshot as well as the Google Earth coordinates of this spot.

    You will get an answer to your mystery. Be sure to update this thread..I love being right.
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