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    Meridian,Township,Range

    Holey cow, I finally figured this stuff out.
    Now I can take the numbers into the BLM and see if it open for claims.
    Good thing it's only a MAX ride into downtown Portland.
    Grey
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    ha! If you have a problem, you could always ask a surveyor ................
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." Friedrich Nietzsche

    "You ask where I live. I cannot tell you. I am a Voyageur, a Chicot, sir. I live everywhere. My grandfather was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. My father was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. I will also die while en route, and another Chicot will take my place. Such is our course of life."

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    Quote Originally Posted by greydigger View Post
    Holey cow, I finally figured this stuff out.
    Now I can take the numbers into the BLM and see if it open for claims.
    Good thing it's only a MAX ride into downtown Portland.
    Grey
    That would be section, township, and range... Meridians relate to time zones.

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    Nope--- hit the dictionary as they also are a land designation-example-kalif is the Mount Diablo Meridian and also mandatory in all legal documents filed on all claims-John

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    Good deal, Greydigger! Welcome to the wonderful world of maps. Just think of townships as the north-south axis and ranges as the east-west axis. (i.e. T.7 N. and R.4 E.) As John mentions above, Mt. Diablo Meridian (also called Mt. Diablo Base line) separates the NORTH standard parallels from the SOUTH standard parallels. The Mt Diablo Base Line runs east to the Nevada/New Mexico border at Buck Mt. New Mexico will start another base line. Maps are my PASSION! TTC
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    The BLM Surface Management maps list Meridian, Township, Range, and Section.
    LR 2000 uses all 4.

    http://www.blm.gov/lr2000/
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    It was late when I posted and I was thinking more specifically about sections than the principal and guide meridians...

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    Yah, I think (Maybe) the Meridian is a set point for each state,
    For Oregon the (?) Benchmark goes from there.
    I have been to it in the west hills of Portland.
    Then the Township is N/S and Range is E/W.
    Section is a square mile seperated into 36 pieces each piece being 640 acres.
    The parts of sections are broken down further.
    (Help me if I am wrong).
    You must have Meridian, Township, Range, Section, and a bit more to stake a claim.
    Gosh, I bought 2 homes and I should have known this.

    Now, Prime Meridian which governs Time is at Longitude 0 and runs through
    Greenwich, England. Used to be called Greenwich Time.
    (Pronounced Grenich). Now called Universal Time. Available from National Bureau of Standard in Fort Collins CO.
    Broadcast on 5, 10 15, 20, and 25 Mhz. in Amplitude Modulation frequencies.
    Also from other parts of the world. This time is determined by observing the half life of the cesium atom.
    More than you wanted to know I am sure.
    But time is important as to where you are in the world re: celestrial navigation.
    At such and such a time the sun, moon, star you are seeing is exactly so many degrees above the horizon on a certain date.
    Thus you can get your Latitude and Longitude and say YOU ARE THERE!
    Modern GPS units do all the calculating for you so a sextant is not needed.
    They go off the geosyncronus positions of satelites thrown into space and triangulated from that.
    And time.
    For my concern it is the legal description of the land in Meridian, Township, Range, and Section.
    I didn't know what Meridian to go from.
    Grey
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    Seek professional advice. Some items are limited
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    Wait a minute.. You guys use maps?
    maps is what gets me lost the quickest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by russau View Post
    maps is what gets me lost the quickest!
    Russau, I like the humor in both your and Terry's posts but I KNOW you are kidding! If you are not, get to know maps and they will become your best friends! The trick is... know where you are on the map BEFORE you need the map and you CAN'T get lost! (tisk, tisk) TTC
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    Thanks for elaborating greydigger. I now know that the meridian has to be part of a description for a mining claim. Not a whole lot of mining claims going on around here and that's why I was thinking about time zones...

    Again, I was thinking of a metes and bounds property description which contains the section, township, range, and county of a state.

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    Watch out in florida as I hear new detecting laws rammed,jammed and crammed through your bureauratz to banJohn

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    Quote Originally Posted by greydigger View Post
    Yah, I think (Maybe) the Meridian is a set point for each state,
    For Oregon the (?) Benchmark goes from there.
    I have been to it in the west hills of Portland.
    Then the Township is N/S and Range is E/W.
    Section is a square mile seperated into 36 pieces each piece being 640 acres.
    The parts of sections are broken down further.
    (Help me if I am wrong).
    You must have Meridian, Township, Range, Section, and a bit more to stake a claim.
    Gosh, I bought 2 homes and I should have known this.

    Now, Prime Meridian which governs Time is at Longitude 0 and runs through
    Greenwich, England. Used to be called Greenwich Time.
    (Pronounced Grenich). Now called Universal Time. Available from National Bureau of Standard in Fort Collins CO.
    Broadcast on 5, 10 15, 20, and 25 Mhz. in Amplitude Modulation frequencies.
    Also from other parts of the world. This time is determined by observing the half life of the cesium atom.
    More than you wanted to know I am sure.
    But time is important as to where you are in the world re: celestrial navigation.
    At such and such a time the sun, moon, star you are seeing is exactly so many degrees above the horizon on a certain date.
    Thus you can get your Latitude and Longitude and say YOU ARE THERE!
    Modern GPS units do all the calculating for you so a sextant is not needed.
    They go off the geosyncronus positions of satelites thrown into space and triangulated from that.
    And time.
    For my concern it is the legal description of the land in Meridian, Township, Range, and Section.
    I didn't know what Meridian to go from.
    Grey
    Good explanation.

    Any meridian is a longitude line, and these two are unrelated except for that characteristic.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." Friedrich Nietzsche

    "You ask where I live. I cannot tell you. I am a Voyageur, a Chicot, sir. I live everywhere. My grandfather was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. My father was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. I will also die while en route, and another Chicot will take my place. Such is our course of life."

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    Hey sorry for bringin up an old thread. I figured I just ask in this thread, since there seems to be some good info. Thing is! I cant understand it. I am stuck at the part on the BLM site where you input the Merid/Township/Range. I was going to just call my BLM and ask them to help me out. Then I saw this thread.
    As I am typing this, I panned over to google earth, over my area of interest and saw the set of numbers on the bottom of google earth. Appears to be the coords? And as im reading this thread someone said, Merid township and range is simply that? The coords or gps that I am seeing on GE? Sorry if this seems scattered, been racking my brain trying to fig out the lr2000.


    I also want to add, Im using the maps from the BLM office ( which are dated 2006 ) so I know things have changed, but what im doing is, looking at the blm area's on those maps,then using GE just to get an idea of the surroundings, and using those Coords I see on the bottom of Google earth for the Merid/township/range page? Basically, I am just testing and trying to learn, but very confused
    Chad
    Last edited by Chachie; Jan 31, 2013 at 12:44 AM.

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    The hardest part of legal descriptions is that you must read and write backwards which is why it's done that a way. Our government has been doing things backasswards for years so just think in reverse of common sense and it's eazy to understand then John
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    Hi,

    If you can find the location in Google maps, then right click the location, and choose "What's Here?" The search bar will then show latitude and longitude.
    Then, browse to this site and enter the lat/long to get range, township, section.

    Township and Range Search By Lat and Long

    Hope this helps..
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    Quote Originally Posted by benny View Post
    Hi,

    If you can find the location in Google maps, then right click the location, and choose "What's Here?" The search bar will then show latitude and longitude.
    Then, browse to this site and enter the lat/long to get range, township, section.

    Township and Range Search By Lat and Long

    Hope this helps..
    Very cool, thanks for the tip on GE, and also the link. I will take some reverse common sense pills and get to it right away! But seriously thanks, that should help me out big time.

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