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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregory E. Davis View Post
    Hello Carrol: You posted on July 6, 2017 a story by your father titled: Stories". It too had disappeared from the site. Again, a kind request asking if you would please re-post that "Stories" by your father. Cordially, Gregory E. Davis
    I deleted most of the pictures I posted so it doesnt clog up this site. Can you steer me to the post so I can figure witch upload it was?
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    Ok i found the post..

    2=3 is located exactly between the 2 washes. 2 saguaros, 1's top cut off to make a 3 saguaro....2=3 is exactly where it is according to the Tumlinson stone maps. But 2=3 is not the original intent of those saguaro markers, 2=3 is Travis's reference to the area when passing thru jotting things down (later putting it to stone, his rendition of the area). There is an outcrop about 15 feet from there.


    ...tomorrow night ill look thru the pages i have scanned.
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    Good evening Carrol: It's post number 103 on page 7 of the thread. Cordially, Gregory E. Davis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrol View Post
    Ok i found the post..

    2=3 is located exactly between the 2 washes. 2 saguaros, 1's top cut off to make a 3 saguaro....2=3 is exactly where it is according to the Tumlinson stone maps. But 2=3 is not the original intent of those saguaro markers, 2=3 is Travis's reference to the area when passing thru jotting things down (later putting it to stone, his rendition of the area). There is an outcrop about 15 feet from there.


    ...tomorrow night ill look thru the pages i have scanned.
    Carrol...I hope you would consider preserving all your father's papers and photos by submitting them to the Arizona Historical Society in Tucson. Your dad was an icon to many! Not only does your dad deserve it, but I think the people of Arizona and those who would study her history would benefit in ways we could never know! Preserve our history my brother...your Dad was an important part of it.... Best regards, Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrol View Post
    Ok i found the post..

    2=3 is located exactly between the 2 washes. 2 saguaros, 1's top cut off to make a 3 saguaro....2=3 is exactly where it is according to the Tumlinson stone maps. But 2=3 is not the original intent of those saguaro markers, 2=3 is Travis's reference to the area when passing thru jotting things down (later putting it to stone, his rendition of the area). There is an outcrop about 15 feet from there.


    ...tomorrow night ill look thru the pages i have scanned.
    Corral

    There's a lot of holes to your Story, That don't wash.
    Not one person has yet proved Travis made the Stone Maps, Period!
    Not even the great Ryan Gordon, Now personality I liked your Fathers stuff, A True go getter.
    But to suggest ones work as false, or a copy of your fathers, just rubs me alittle bit on the harsh side.
    When in reality it's Your Dad who followed after Travis.

    The Spanish treasure maps used the trinity system. 2-3-1,
    2= start
    3= directional
    1= your there

    2=3 means your at your direction Now your set for 1

    I believe your dad found a personal stash marked by the system.
    Had to store there shares just the same.

    but do continue

    babymick1

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    Corral

    There's a lot of holes to your Story, That don't wash.
    Not one person has yet proved Travis made the Stone Maps, Period!
    Not even the great Ryan Gordon, Now personality I liked your Fathers stuff, A True go getter.
    But to suggest ones work as false, or a copy of your fathers, just rubs me alittle bit on the harsh side.
    When in reality it's Your Dad who followed after Travis.

    The Spanish treasure maps used the trinity system. 2-3-1,
    2= start
    3= directional
    1= your there

    2=3 means your at your direction Now your set for 1

    I believe your dad found a personal stash marked by the system.
    Had to store there shares just the same.

    but do continue

    babymick1
    did you learn that at the same school that taught you how to paint 2x4's gold with spray paint?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    did you learn that at the same school that taught you how to paint 2x4's gold with spray paint?
    No Dave

    But I did stay at a Hoilday Inn last night. No but I do have a research team. There is not one credible source that the maps are fake. Even the FBI's results weren't to authenticate them to lead to something but to determine there age so AZ could claim them under the antiquities law. That was there role in examining them. They were considered over a hundred years old or more. That's how AZ got them.

    So if found in 1947 plus a hundred = 1847

    babymick1 PS my gold 2x4's sell like hot cakes for 1300 a OZ!

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    Dave

    I learned other things to, like the tunnel from the top.

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    About 15 20 feet down And what it looks like at the bottom.

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    Ahh Dave I found another Quarter OZ!

    Whooooo. Babymick1
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    Dave

    I learned other things to, like the tunnel from the top.

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    Ahh Dave I found another Quarter OZ!

    Whooooo. Babymick1
    wow mick...if pyrite ever gets to be worth something you will be rich....actually i'd like to have a big chunk of that quartz and pyrite to make a sphere with

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    wow mick...if pyrite ever gets to be worth something you will be rich....actually i'd like to have a big chunk of that quartz and pyrite to make a sphere with
    You always seem to be lost Dave. Why would you ask for a pyrite one sphere when you could have a Gold One!

    lets recap

    first pick you say 2x4's
    2nd pic placer gold
    3rd pic is where it comes from, same gold, but you call it placer gold with no doubt, but now it's Pyrite.

    So please tell all on here what it is Dave,

    Babymick1

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    You always seem to be lost Dave. Why would you ask for a pyrite one sphere when you could have a Gold One!

    lets recap

    first pick you say 2x4's
    2nd pic placer gold
    3rd pic is where it comes from, same gold, but you call it placer gold with no doubt, but now it's Pyrite.

    So please tell all on here what it is Dave,

    Babymick1
    pic #1887 is pyrite mick....
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    pic #1887 is pyrite mick....
    actually it is probably chalcopyrite...you can tell by the slight green tint
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    No Dave

    But I did stay at a Hoilday Inn last night. No but I do have a research team. There is not one credible source that the maps are fake. Even the FBI's results weren't to authenticate them to lead to something but to determine there age so AZ could claim them under the antiquities law. That was there role in examining them. They were considered over a hundred years old or more. That's how AZ got them.

    So if found in 1947 plus a hundred = 1847

    babymick1 PS my gold 2x4's sell like hot cakes for 1300 a OZ!
    Mick, Desert Archaeology Inc examined the maps and declared them to be modern fakes. Their conclusions are posted elsewhere. On top of this, members of Tumlinson's own family stated that Tumlinson himself carved them, and we have seen photos of the other stone carvings done by Tumlinson. Now you are certainly free and welcome to believe in them or believe in anything you like, including that pyrites are gold, but you are 100% mistaken that no "credible" source ever declared the stone maps to be fakes. You are not fooling anyone with your photos. Real gold looks like real gold.

    "Oh look what I found this morning in the Lost Dutchman mine, right outside the entrance!"
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    If you believe that I have a wonderful bridge to sell you too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    actually it is probably chalcopyrite...you can tell by the slight green tint
    Never heard you say that about about the other to pic's

    so it can't be that if it helps it 18k to 14k for smaller pieces with copper in it mostly

    babymick1

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    Never heard you say that about about the other to pic's

    so it can't be that if it helps it 18k to 14k for smaller pieces with copper in it mostly

    babymick1
    sorry mick..but that is not gold..
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