Creek Hunting Primer

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I have received a few emails over the past couple of weeks regarding creek hunting. I sketched out an example of the places I hunt with regards to this. It's not a map. It's a representation. I'll do my best and post this in an understandable way. Any others that would like to add something here, please DO.

A couple of obvious notes first:

1. If Indians weren't there you won't find anything.
2. Please ask for permission. It's not easy sometimes, but, if you offer to give a helping hand occasionally you'll be surprised at the trade-off.
3. Leave it cleaner than you found it.
4. This is my approach and it might be different for any locale.
5. I'm not an English major.
6. Contact me if you have any questions or post here.
7. Be careful and watch out for snakes!

The map:
1. The example I sketched shows a couple of lakes that were man made. These lakes have overflows. Before the lakes were built there was probably a natural run-off or stream there to begin with. When lakes like this are built, the hydraulics of water try to cut the earth to the hardpan as water overflows. As the ground gets harder the stream begins to widen and cut the banks causing erosion. The shaded area on the map relates to semi-flat ground. As the stream picks up speed(from flooding) it erodes the banks and potential campsites along the stream. This is how most points are deposited in the stream.

2. The hash lines(springs) are also important to determine natural water sources. These usually have water flowing just a bit. The people of the day relied on permanent sources of water not only for drinking, but also for game.

3. The confluence of 2 streams is also a great place for a campsite to be. These sites have produced quite a bit of raw chert and pottery(for me at least). If your fortunate enough to get permission to dig, this is a great place to test.

4. The hills above the semi-flat areas were probably campsites too. Below the Fall Line, there are mostly rolling hills and bluffs. In a good area, you'll find material and pottery at the top. These hills create the terrain for these creeks to be formed.

5. Keep an eye on the banks as your walking in the creek. Sometimes, you can actually see the Charcoal line from occupation. I've seen this occupation layer as far as 6-8' below ground level. One time, I actually pulled a point straight from the charcoal. This reinforces what I was saying about the creek eroding outwards from the center as time and floods happen.Points fall in.

6. I ALWAYS walk up the creek first. The reason I do this is the wake from walking down distorts the flow and obscures the visibility in deeper water. I usually walk up looking underwater and then walk down looking on the gravel bars. Points tend to catch or lay with the flow. Walking up you might not see it. Once permission is attained and you have somewhere to go, get a 5 gallon bucket. Cut everything from the bottom except about a 1/2" lip around edge. Get some plexiglass at home depot and cut to fit from inside. Seal with silicone and you now have a viewfinder to see in rough water. I've picked up plenty using the viewfinder.

7. Topography- If the terrain doesn't fall right you'll lack gravel bars. You'll need to determine the fall of the land. This is easy. Topo map. They are available online and are pretty accurate. I look for a fall of between 1-3 ft per 5-10 miles. Google Earth is good for this.

8. When searching the creek you'll want to look for local lithics. Flint chips, quartz chips and curved rocks(i.e. pottery)-some of this can be worn down to almost nothing. Straight lines are the most important thing when I'm looking. South of the Fall Line you'll find Coastal Plains chert.(that translucent red and orange flint). North will be a mix of quartz and darker color flints(lucky dog if you get the crystal quartz). I've seen Coastal plains further, but, it tends to thin out quickly. ANYTHING white I flip or at least expose. Noon is the time of day I prefer to go. Take your time. It will pay.


10. Any others that would like to add something here, please DO.

11. If this helped you please post some of your finds under this thread.

Good luck and HH to all,
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Good post. It should help a lot of people learn. Nice of ya to take the time to put it all down :thumbsup:
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Do a local search for a "One Call" in your area. they have maps used for utilitly companies. They have county maps that are divided by townships and have all the little tiny creaks and old roads marked on them. These maps are fantistic for any artifact hunters.
 

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Good job Newt. Those are some good tips for folks that have been out hunting with enthusiasm, but have never put their hands on the goods. Maybe with your help they will be out hunting us all. :thumbsup:
But you might upset the archies. :laughing9:

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One of my co-workers told me his parents often find arrowheads on their land, so I asked him to show me in google maps where it is. and low and behold it reminded me of Newt's drawing. He pointed out the two locations that points are found on.
Too bad they dont let anyone hunt artifacts on it.

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Nice map, and great pointers.

Becareful digging too close to the stream, or you can accelerate errosion very, very quickly even if you fill it back in. There are other times that I've trenched a small canal through hard, old gravel bars. After a good rain, it'll turn an area that might not have seen movement in years. Back in the 80's I used to dig with some local collectors in Indiana (back when it was legal), there was a spot on the Eel river where it was cutting into some deposits and the farmer didn't want us to dig. We drug some old stumps and rocks into the channel just down stream. We would then would sift the silt dumped in front of the break like crazy after every good hard rain and it was always good hunting. If you get a productive patch of gravel, and there is a tree or something just down stream that slows the water down, you can find some nice artifacts right in front of it (not to mention turtles, snakes, and broken glass galore, so go carefully.)

Sid, there looks to be some very nice gravel bars downstream where that creek dumps into the river near the interstate bridge, I hope you hunt them. (I always uncheck the Layers options on google earth when I am going to post a map, or people can go in a see exactly where your screen shot came from.)
 

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sidmind said:
One of my co-workers told me his parents often find arrowheads on their land, so I asked him to show me in google maps where it is. and low and behold it reminded me of Newt's drawing. He pointed out the two locations that points are found on.
Too bad they dont let anyone hunt artifacts on it.

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Probably because they COLLECT too. Oh well.
I circled the occupation area as I see it. IMO. I would be looking at the walls in the creek for occupation. Since you already know of occupation maybe you can take some knowledge with you on the invite. If it ever comes. If not, at least you know what to look for.
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I'm not into Native American artifacts, but this is a great post, Newt. Thanks for this.

If you go and find something. You'll be hooked.
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TnMountains said:
Good post. It should help a lot of people learn. Nice of ya to take the time to put it all down :thumbsup:
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It did take a minute, but, it will save some folks time if it's read.Thanks.
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uniface said:
Nice ! & Thanks for the benefit of your experience !

I think it will work just about anywhere.
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Treasure_Hunter said:
Do a local search for a "One Call" in your area. they have maps used for utilitly companies. They have county maps that are divided by townships and have all the little tiny creaks and old roads marked on them. These maps are fantistic for any artifact hunters.

I'll be sure to check this one out. Thanks for injecting useful info. here.
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Americus said:
Good information. What part of Georgia are you from? I'm from Americus.
I'm up in Macon. I usually hunt further south near the fall line.
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joshuaream said:
Nice map, and great pointers.

Becareful digging too close to the stream, or you can accelerate errosion very, very quickly even if you fill it back in. There are other times that I've trenched a small canal through hard, old gravel bars. After a good rain, it'll turn an area that might not have seen movement in years. Back in the 80's I used to dig with some local collectors in Indiana (back when it was legal), there was a spot on the Eel river where it was cutting into some deposits and the farmer didn't want us to dig. We drug some old stumps and rocks into the channel just down stream. We would then would sift the silt dumped in front of the break like crazy after every good hard rain and it was always good hunting. If you get a productive patch of gravel, and there is a tree or something just down stream that slows the water down, you can find some nice artifacts right in front of it (not to mention turtles, snakes, and broken glass galore, so go carefully.)

Sid, there looks to be some very nice gravel bars downstream where that creek dumps into the river near the interstate bridge, I hope you hunt them. (I always uncheck the Layers options on google earth when I am going to post a map, or people can go in a see exactly where your screen shot came from.)

Very good point! Both of em'.
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Have so enjoyed this post. Before google earth we used to get all the ancient topography maps from the gov and look for shallow bends in rivers.There were always camps near or on both sides of the shallows or where a fresh water spring or creek fed near the river. Also on the upstream sides on any islands on the slow current side. Thanks for all the hard effort you have put into your post. Will help a lot of people get started.
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TnMountains said:
Have so enjoyed this post. Before google earth we used to get all the ancient topography maps from the gov and look for shallow bends in rivers.There were always camps near or on both sides of the shallows or where a fresh water spring or creek fed near the river. Also on the upstream sides on any islands on the slow current side. Thanks for all the hard effort you have put into your post. Will help a lot of people get started.
Happy Huntin :icon_sunny:
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Yes and yes. Google is a very good "free" tool for finding the good stuff.
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