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  1. #1
    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
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    Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Now here is a few photos that may get Jupiter some new attention!

    {Dan Sedwick told me Jupiter Shipwreck was old news......}

    There may be a new chapter about to be written about three
    of the ones in these photos!

    {Of course it is old news!!!! It sank 350 years ago!}

    And we still haven't got it all up yet....

    but, we still are getting it up!

    That's better than some can say.....
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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  2. #2

    Jan 2007
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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Wow! Gold bars from the Jupiter wreck ? !#*
    Your hair looks a little darker in the photos. When were these found?

  3. #3
    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
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    23 times

    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    The two I am holding were recovered in the early 1990's

    I will look to dig up some more close up photos....

    The other three, well.... they are another story or I should say....
    a couple of stories.....
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Capt Dom,

    So there is no misunderstanding, are you saying that the two gold bars you are holding were recovered from the Jupiter wreck?

    What dates are on them?

    Mariner

  5. #5
    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
    879
    23 times

    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    So that there is no mistake.....

    YES.... The two gold bars were discovered by diver John Mc Sherry
    and his wife at the Jupiter Shipwreck site - back in the day -
    when, it was under my watch...

    Here are two more photos...
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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

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    Mar 2006
    Norway
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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Great finds.
    Det vi vet er så uendelig lite mot det som har hendt. Arkeologen er som den som går langs en strand og finner småtterier, skyllet i land fra et forsvunnet skib. Men selve skibet som gikk i dypet med menneskene får han aldri se.

    http://www.comepraytherosary.org/

  7. #7
    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
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    23 times

    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Dell,

    One of my "gold bar" favorite staged pictures of all time

    {some of us ham it up occasionally about our finds}

    was taken with our crew, right at the Jupiter inlet
    south Jetty!

    This photo ended up on front pages of news papers
    in blazing color the most particular of note: Was a 3/4 page
    full color lay out in the living section of the Chicago Sun Sentinal.

    We were all sitting there - with me in the middle and I
    was holding the gold bar in my hand on my lower lap
    sort of between my legs - with the coins still concreted
    to the very end closest to my body.....

    Talk about "Gold finger" !!!

    It looked like I had a 9 inch golden slong!
    And there it was for all to see...
    There was some fun,
    back-in-the-day
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  8. #8
    Charter Member
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    shhh...the person who posted above me just farted but wont see this since you scrolled down.

    Dec 2009
    St. Charles County, Missouri
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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dell Winders
    Go for the Gold! Dell
    Where have I heard that before?

    Love those pictures!
    When detectors are outlawed, only outlaws will have detectors

  9. #9
    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
    879
    23 times

    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Big and small..... The gold is out there

    You just have to look!
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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  10. #10
    us
    May 2006
    Treasure Coast (Vero Beach)
    Minelab EXII. Sovereign, Tigershark, My eyeballs to bloody fingers
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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Capt Dom,

    Are the photos marked Ingot 1, Ingot 5 and Ingot 3 from the Jupiter wreck?

    I hope you find more like the bottom gold bars....
    those Ingots pictures are to pretty for me, to many markings , I'd throw 'em back, lol.

    Nice GOLD, I really do hope you find more gold !!!

    Trez

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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Dell,

    Most of the women I have known don't mind a little
    poking....

    especially if it is in fun, I mean
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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  12. #12
    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Trez,

    I was wondering when somebody was going to
    get around to asking about bars number one,
    number three and number five......

    Gold Bar Number 5:

    1659 Philip IV 22-carat ingot Mexico City

    Weight: 5.36 ounces (151.9 grams)

    Dimensions: 175 mm long x 14 mm wide x 6 mm thick

    Comments: The square stamp on the left end of the ingot bearing an 'M' with the small 'o' above indicates mintage in Mexico City. Just to the right is a crowned stamp bearing an monogram PVS indicating the monarch, Philip IV, this is the royal stamp showing the Quinto or "fifth" tax had been paid to the king's agents. The Quinto was a lucrative royal tax requiring everyone to pay the king the equivalent of one-fifth the value of all their income and assets. The small round stamped P to the right is the initial of the anonymous assayer who produced coins during 1622-1667 (see Pellicer i Bru, Glosario, pp. 40 and 167). Again to the right is a round crowned stamp bearing the date 1659, this is followed by a large stamped 'V' for the weight, which equalled 5 old Spanish ounces. Finally, the obverse rim of an 8 escudos piece is stamped twice on the far right end of the ingot.


    Allegedly:
    Recovered from the 1733 Fleet Wreck by Mel Fisher

    Provenance: From the Robert H. Gore, Jr. Numismatic Collection. Acquired by Mr. Gore from Armada research Group, a wholly owned subsidiary of Treasure Salvors on May 6, 1973.

    Now Trez.....

    Why would a bar from 1659 be on a 1733 fleet vessel?

    There is more... to this story....
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  13. #13
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    Sep 2005
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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Absolutely Beautiful. Nicely defined markings. Took my breath away !

    itmaiden

  14. #14
    Charter Member
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    Pirate of the Martires

    Feb 2005
    Pinellas Park, Florida
    Aquapulse, J.W. Fisher Proton 3, Pulse Star II
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    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Dom where are the bars now? I heard the state "lost" one of them.

  15. #15
    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
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    23 times

    Re: Arh, Golden Ingots from 1659!

    Now where did you here that?

    They did do something I think was unconscionable.....

    They stripped all the coins off of them (the coins gave the bars provenance) looking for more markings
    that were not there..... We had ex rayed them and proven that at a United Technology facility here
    in Jupiter.....

    Turned them into what they were.... without the coins stuck to them - bullion.
    Then gave one of them back to us.....

    Then my partners gave it to the guys who had hired Mc Sherry who actually found them at our site,
    to sell at the bottom of the bullion market, and JWI split the sale proceeds with the former joint venture partners....

    I wasn't one of their (Marex International's) favorite people, as I clocked one of their fund raisers, breaking his jaw.
    But, that is another story....

    I have no idea what happened to the one the state took from us after turning both the ingots from
    being a truly unique artifacts, to a just bars of bullion; but the geologist, Allen Craig wrote
    about these Jupiter Wreck Gold Ingots in his book on Silver Bars.....

    He also wrote about the 1659 bars I photoed.
    I happen to know where they are....
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

 

 

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