more info on the Jupiter wreck(s)

[cornelis 816]

Click on the following www.jupitercoins.com/WreckHistory.html Cornelius

[capt dom]

Thank you Cornelius!

This is about the most accurate and unbiased account of our efforts
at the area that has become known as the Jupiter Historic Shipwreck Site to date.

And yes, there are a lot more shipwrecks in our immediate vicinity but when you think of
the Jupiter site one needs to understand that it has been a war zone since 1987! Some of us
from the beginning, have had to fight long and hard battles in an attempt to keep the age
of discovery and private sector interests involved with the process of undersea exploration
and what we call here "treasure hunting". Some of these battles
have even been from within our own organization.
Egos and finding treasure often go
hand in hand. But a lesson
I have learned the hard
way is to put the egos
aside.

Dr. Robert Baer is about to publish an empirical work on our Jupiter site
and I for one am looking forward to reading it.

But to answer a question about why we have not ventured out further
is simple and two fold:

1. As the crew working out there this past week is proving - the site is by no means exhausted
2. At every turn the bureaucratic archaeological lobby has kept the state from expanding the parameters
of our search area - within our state agreement.

Our present Florida Governor is on a mission to clean house in Tallahassee and get Floridians
"back to work". Here in the Treasure Coast a good place to start is by
letting the private sector salvage community get out there
"back to work" researching and discovering more
about our state of Florida's historic maritime past
educating the public about why it is called
the treasure coast!

[cornelis 816]

I wonder how many of you did read this post . This is a true story of the possible wrecks in the Jupiter area . No matter what they say , there is no known wreck they are working on now . It is most likely that an ,, aviso ,, was wrecked in the area , but no names are to be given to these wrecks . So even the value of any coins found in the area have a little value . If anybody can come up with a different argument as far as the names of the wrecks goes , I am ready to discuss the matter . Cornelius

[capt dom]

Let me put forth a hypothesis that may be the case.
It may appear far fetched but for the sake of argument
take a look.

The concept that this may in fact be the San Miguel Archangel
is based upon the frequency distribution of coins recovered to date
being primarily from 1652 to 1659. almost all of them recovered to date
are of new world variety being minted from either mints at Potosi, El Peru,Colombia and Mexico.
And, there are few pre-1651 specimens and hardly any counter-struck coin specimens.
One 78 pound ingot - well marked and two 5 pound ingots of gold.
No bell with a name on it. No specific artifact linked to an outgoing sailing manifest.

Lets take a wild stab and say possibly 15,000 to 17,000 coins have been recovered to date.
Basically a respectable number of coins but in NO way representing a full
cargo of coins and or bullion - that is for any ship returning to the
Spains. (One did not purchase a round trip ticket back in the age of discovery)
If you didn't acquire wealth - you didn't go home!

What if they turned out to be the private stash of some jamocke who quit working in 1659
and went out exploring himself until say, 1714.....

Now lets say this Jamocke decided to go back to the homeland - dug up his stash and
booked passage on a 1715 fleet boat......

One may say this is far fetched but it is true that our ship still is an unidentified vessel
that - from the date range of the coins could be the San Miguel
BUT..... it is still a big but and our vessel truly
has not been absolutely identified.

[Mackaydon]

I have no problem with hearing or saying the ‘Jupiter wreck’ is believed to be the 'San Miguel Archangel'. If the true name of the vessel is ever determined, of if the 'San Miguel Archangel' is discovered elsewhere, then the Jupiter wreck can be ‘renamed’. In the meantime, putting a name to the Jupiter wreck gives it some specific, yet properly qualified, identity and also aids in the marketing effort.
“No harm, no foul.”
Don....