The last successful treasure fleet before & after 1715

[grossmusic]

Does anyone know where there may be a chart or listing of all the Spanish treasure fleets (Atlantic)?

I know that 1702's fleet was attacked, as was 1708. 1711 sank in a storm, & of course 1715's fleet was shipwrecked on Florida's shores.

When was the last successful trans-Atlantic treasure fleet before 1702?

If anyone knows a source for some of this data, I'm willing to put together (& share) a comprehensive chart. Would love to include year, captains, ship info, cargo value, etc. + its final status:
thwarted by attack (by whom)
sunk (where)
arrived (Cadiz or other port in Spain)

(I'd be interested in Manila Galleons as well.)

 

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[Au_Dreamers]

The ships that carried the 1715 Fleet recovered treasure?

Though there were a few ships lost the 1681 Fleet did reach Spain.

In the 1760s and 70s only six flotas sailed to Veracruz.
Spanish Treasure Fleets--Reading 1


In 1761, the Treasure Fleet, from Nueva España, arrived in Spain with 16,000,000 pesos

 

[Boatlode]

In 1761, the Treasure Fleet, from Nueva España, arrived in Spain with 16,000,000 pesos

AU Dreamers is correct, Tammy. This is the last one that safely reached Spain. See Walton's "The Spanish Treasure Fleets" p 173.

 

[grossmusic]

Thanks, Mike. That is good to know. I'll have to get that book (hard to believe I don't have it on file already!).

I would still love to know the "schedule," but especially prior to 1715. The 1715 fleet was super important because it would be the first one in how many years? Did any go during either prior war? 1690s? 1701?

From what I can tell it may have been a couple decades since a formal flotilla had successfully made the voyage. And very few seemed to have even made the attempt.

One clue would be any solid info about the various treasure fairs in Veracruz & Portobelo (& Alcapulco). I know Portobelo held its fair in 1708 & probably in 1702, but when was the last before that?

Hoping to uncover answers eventually!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, all!

 

[ARC]

I can tell you the ones that DID NOT make it...
And the ones that are "missing" and suspected general areas of many of them.
a few covert ones and unregistered secret missions.

Never really paid much attention over the years to the ones that "made it". :P

Happy Thanksgiving back at ya

 

[Boatlode]

Thanks, Mike. That is good to know. I'll have to get that book (hard to believe I don't have it on file already!).

I would still love to know the "schedule," but especially prior to 1715. The 1715 fleet was super important because it would be the first one in how many years? Did any go during either prior war? 1690s? 1701?

From what I can tell it may have been a couple decades since a formal flotilla had successfully made the voyage. And very few seemed to have even made the attempt.

One clue would be any solid info about the various treasure fairs in Veracruz & Portobelo (& Alcapulco). I know Portobelo held its fair in 1706 & probably in 1702, but when was the last before that?

Hoping to uncover answers eventually!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, all!

The 1701 New Spain treasure fleet successfully made it back to Spain, at the same time Phillip V took the throne, touching off the War of Spanish Succession. In 1702 the Spanish treasure fleet was escorted by French warships and went to Vigo Bay instead of Cadiz because Cadiz was under attack by the British and Dutch. Most of the treasure was already unloaded when the British / Dutch combined fleet, learning that the silver fleet was at Vigo, attacked sinking the entire Spanish / French treasure fleet in the famous Battle of Vigo Bay. But 7 million pesos had already gone ashore, a record for a single fleet at that time. (see Walton p 152 - 153).

According to Walton, during the war the Spanish treasure fleets (escorted by the French) got through "more often than not", averaging 6 million pesos per year ( see Walton p 156). The war ended with the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. Walton does not provide a specific year-by-year schedule of treasure fleets during this period (1702 - 1713). The next event Walton mentions is the loss of the 1715 fleet (see p 158 - 160).