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    Dennis

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    Need help with find

    Found this buried at the beach. Set in 14 k gold so the weight is not much help but it is 21.9 grams. About the size of half dollar. Any help appreciated.
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    Wheres The Gold

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    Looks like a hammered coin put into a Keeper Some one should be able to identify it for you soon hh Chug
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    Randy

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    The ones that are found set with a gold bezel are almost always fakes. This one with the crack looks familiar. Someone will post the site you buy these from I don't remember it.

    Cheers and welcome!
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    ARC

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    Quote Originally Posted by trdking View Post
    The ones that are found set with a gold bezel are almost always fakes.
    Actually this is not the case.
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    Hawks88

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    Welcome to tnet from Niagara Falls. Nice find. Congrats
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    CASPER

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    Quote Originally Posted by trdking View Post
    The ones that are found set with a gold bezel are almost always fakes. This one with the crack looks familiar. Someone will post the site you buy these from I don't remember it.

    Cheers and welcome!
    Maybe out in Cali - most of the ones in Fla. that are set in real gold - are actually off Fla. wrecks - they sell them at Mel Fisher museums and usually with a certificate - almost every quality jewelry shop in the Keys carry a bunch of real ones also set in gold
    they do make some copies - but those are usually made from silver ingots found from those wrecks around Fla.
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    CASPER

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    ... and usually have to have the word copy on them if they are
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    Dennis

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    Why do you say Cali? Does it not look like a Florida wreck cob? Do you think it’s a 4 reale? Thanks
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    It is real and if my interpretation of the assayer is correct, then it is quite rare. It is an 8R. With the heavy loss from corrosion, the weight combined with the mount isn't a concern. What you have is a very early Potosi piece minted during the reign of King Phillip III. The assayer - I'm seeing the top of the assayer mark clearly round, but the lower corner at 5 o'clock on the assayer mark looks like the remnant of a tail on a Q. If so, then the assayer was Agustin de la Quadra who used the mark from 1613-1616. There is no date on the early Potosi pieces as they were created without one. They only began to use a date in 1617.

    No provable provenance, but it likely from the Atocha.

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    Dennis

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    Thanks for the information.
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    I hope it’s real!!
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    Randy

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    See I told you they would chime in I actually know nothing about these, being from California, we seldom see them. This statement is now fairly obvious
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    Dennis

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    And I almost pulled it out and threw it in my scrap silver pile and scrapped the gold bezel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diver_Down View Post
    It is real and if my interpretation of the assayer is correct, then it is quite rare. It is an 8R. With the heavy loss from corrosion, the weight combined with the mount isn't a concern. What you have is a very early Potosi piece minted during the reign of King Phillip III. The assayer - I'm seeing the top of the assayer mark clearly round, but the lower corner at 5 o'clock on the assayer mark looks like the remnant of a tail on a Q. If so, then the assayer was Agustin de la Quadra who used the mark from 1613-1616. There is no date on the early Potosi pieces as they were created without one. They only began to use a date in 1617.

    No provable provenance, but it likely from the Atocha.
    I thought the same... BUT... I think PRE Atocha.. perhaps Margarita.

    The reason I say this is the bezel and lack of "TSI" mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbr54 View Post
    And I almost pulled it out and threw it in my scrap silver pile and scrapped the gold bezel
    DONT DO THAT !
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