The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own - Page 167
Welcome guest, is this your first visit?
Member
Discoveries
 
Page 167 of 167 FirstFirst ... 67117157165166167
Results 2,491 to 2,505 of 2505
Like Tree1383Likes

Thread: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

« Prev Thread | Next Thread »
  1. #2491

    Jan 2014
    2,086
    3880 times
    Quote Originally Posted by markmar View Post
    Maybe some people here, to believe how my inputs about the stone maps to be just a controversy or a competition with the other members of who knows more about the stone maps puzzle. That's not the case. I leave everyone to live his dream and to follow his beliefs. Is the right of everyone to believe in his own theory and to follow it with hope till the end of his life or the research period.
    There are those who follow their beliefs from the beginning till the end and the others who adapt their beliefs in regards to new info and new clues. Who is the correct, it's only a man's opinion.

    Now, in regards to what you wrote about the " fauces " from the Latin stone heart map, the word is a Latin one and means " exit ". The " throat " is a Spanish word for " fauces " and on the map, the words are only in Latin.
    Always IMO, the Fauces is not at the beginning of the trail but at its end and is an alternative path which ends on the upper edge of the mountain. Is the "1" curved line from the UTM, which starts from the end of the Trail and ends at the dagger, and what the Priest "name" it as a " Bereda Peligroza ". I know, on the Trail map, the "1" curved line starts from the dagger, but for the Latin stone heart map has a different meaning.
    This path starts from above the Caverna Aurum and has as markings few stones in line like an arch, which show the way that you have to take in regards to follow the path. Also, on this path is a Meus. The other two Meus are on the Trail, one before the church and another on the bent the Trail takes before its end. As I wrote in the past and always IMO, the Trail is only about 200 feet long, with the " lugares " to be in the most route about 12 feet apart.

    I wish good luck to everyone who wants to decrypt the stone maps riddle and to close my input, I post an image of the " fauces " like could be seen at its beginning.
    Fauces in Latin means the upper part of the throat, pharynx, throat, gullet according to the Lewis & Short Latin dictionary. As I have found that whoever devised this puzzle tend to be very precise in their choice of words, I believe that they intended this definition as to create a very precise image, and on the site where the carved leaning cross stands, one does get the impression that there is a cavity that curves back down, into the ground (like the upper part of the throat). There's a mound of dirt and large rocks at this place at the moment, but if all that were to be removed, I would not be surprised to see an entrance resembling the physical shape of a throat. Fauces in modern Spanish means "maw" which is basically the same thing.

    Fornix: vaulted opening; monument arch
    Medulla: marrow, kernel; innermost part; quintessence; kernel

  2. #2492
    gr
    Oct 2012
    White's Spectrum XLT
    3,426
    5420 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by deducer View Post
    Fauces in Latin means the upper part of the throat, pharynx, throat, gullet according to the Lewis & Short Latin dictionary. As I have found that whoever devised this puzzle tend to be very precise in their choice of words, I believe that they intended this definition as to create a very precise image, and on the site where the carved leaning cross stands, one does get the impression that there is a cavity that curves back down, into the ground (like the upper part of the throat). There's a mound of dirt and large rocks at this place at the moment, but if all that were to be removed, I would not be surprised to see an entrance resembling the physical shape of a throat. Fauces in modern Spanish means "maw" which is basically the same thing.

    Fornix: vaulted opening; monument arch
    Medulla: marrow, kernel; innermost part; quintessence; kernel
    I believe in the Latin stone heart map, the word " fauces " is used for a narrow passage from one place to another.
    Real of Tayopa likes this.
    Marius

    If your true to your heart, you will never go wrong. The truth is the truth, no matter how you look at it, and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth. It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





  3. #2493
    us
    El Presidente

    Jul 2014
    Vermont
    Brain, Pointing Finger, occasionally the Pinky Finger
    1,777
    608 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	CobolloSideBySide.jpg 
Views:	51 
Size:	882.0 KB 
ID:	1773329

    You can say that they were pretty artistic

    Gotta look through the "Eye" of the needle....an eye is horizontal not vertical...."No Miner" will find my mine....as in not near Miner's Needle

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	eye of the needle.jpg 
Views:	45 
Size:	134.1 KB 
ID:	1773331

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Number5CluseUpGroundScrapes.jpg 
Views:	47 
Size:	527.3 KB 
ID:	1773330 5 Mine Entrances

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DiamondBack.jpg 
Views:	45 
Size:	217.3 KB 
ID:	1773332 6 Mine Entrances

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Lost Dutchman Mine overlay.jpg 
Views:	59 
Size:	332.1 KB 
ID:	1773333 7 Mine Entrances.....and their wagons stashed in a high saddle, invisible to all passer's by on the roads below.

    18 Mines in total.

    Pretty much a dead horse at this point.

    Took me 35 minutes to find these locations and a few hours gathering the necessary other info like the paper map that shows the location along the river to guide to the high points and the review of the other info to be able to show that it all points to the series of mines along this location.

    Waltzed in and Waltzed out.

    Oh and the 30 men found massacred in the valley on their way out?

    The codes on the bottom of the stones show the secret to their identity from Virginia

    www.facebook.com/SolvingBealePapers

    Left on a 2 yr contract, leaving for the mines, to mine for 18 months or more, to return for a second (7mos) and third leg there, as they buried their stashes in Virginia.....on their third trip out of the valley they were massacred all together. The whole affair was planned as their will was left behind encoded in the Beale Papers.

    The Latin Heart Stone bears two sets of markings one is appearing like this : (1)
    And the other appears from their second leg like this : ((1))

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Peralta Heart Rear Locations.jpg 
Views:	45 
Size:	86.1 KB 
ID:	1773336

    The legend of the Beale describes their Perilous Enterprise where the stones list their dates and the word "Peligroza" as being the key word being the only non capitalized word.
    Last edited by Eldo; Nov 20, 2019 at 11:12 PM.
    But he who knows forms, is able to grasp the unity of nature beneath the surface of materials which are very unlike. Thus is he able to identify and bring about things that have never been done before, things of the kind which neither the vicissitudes of nature, nor hard experimenting, nor pure accident could ever have actualized, nor even human thought dreamed of. And thus from the discovery of the forms flows true speculation and unrestricted operation.

  4. #2494
    us
    The Honorable

    Jun 2018
    Tennessee
    194
    384 times
    Quote Originally Posted by deducer View Post
    Fauces in Latin means the upper part of the throat, pharynx, throat, gullet according to the Lewis & Short Latin dictionary. As I have found that whoever devised this puzzle tend to be very precise in their choice of words, I believe that they intended this definition as to create a very precise image, and on the site where the carved leaning cross stands, one does get the impression that there is a cavity that curves back down, into the ground (like the upper part of the throat). There's a mound of dirt and large rocks at this place at the moment, but if all that were to be removed, I would not be surprised to see an entrance resembling the physical shape of a throat. Fauces in modern Spanish means "maw" which is basically the same thing.

    Fornix: vaulted opening; monument arch
    Medulla: marrow, kernel; innermost part; quintessence; kernel
    I've found the word "gola" before and that is "gullet" or throat.
    Just sayin' I don't know, but it's odd.

  5. #2495
    us
    Rev

    Dec 2014
    LA
    Discovery 2000 Treasure Hunter XJ9-3050 Treasure Hunter 3030
    3,573
    308 times
    Bible and Decoding Beale Cipher
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldo View Post
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	CobolloSideBySide.jpg 
Views:	51 
Size:	882.0 KB 
ID:	1773329

    You can say that they were pretty artistic

    Gotta look through the "Eye" of the needle....an eye is horizontal not vertical...."No Miner" will find my mine....as in not near Miner's Needle

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	eye of the needle.jpg 
Views:	45 
Size:	134.1 KB 
ID:	1773331

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Number5CluseUpGroundScrapes.jpg 
Views:	47 
Size:	527.3 KB 
ID:	1773330 5 Mine Entrances

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DiamondBack.jpg 
Views:	45 
Size:	217.3 KB 
ID:	1773332 6 Mine Entrances

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Lost Dutchman Mine overlay.jpg 
Views:	59 
Size:	332.1 KB 
ID:	1773333 7 Mine Entrances.....and their wagons stashed in a high saddle, invisible to all passer's by on the roads below.

    18 Mines in total.

    Pretty much a dead horse at this point.

    Took me 35 minutes to find these locations and a few hours gathering the necessary other info like the paper map that shows the location along the river to guide to the high points and the review of the other info to be able to show that it all points to the series of mines along this location.

    Waltzed in and Waltzed out.

    Oh and the 30 men found massacred in the valley on their way out?

    The codes on the bottom of the stones show the secret to their identity from Virginia

    www.facebook.com/SolvingBealePapers

    Left on a 2 yr contract, leaving for the mines, to mine for 18 months or more, to return for a second (7mos) and third leg there, as they buried their stashes in Virginia.....on their third trip out of the valley they were massacred all together. The whole affair was planned as their will was left behind encoded in the Beale Papers.

    The Latin Heart Stone bears two sets of markings one is appearing like this : (1)
    And the other appears from their second leg like this : ((1))

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Peralta Heart Rear Locations.jpg 
Views:	45 
Size:	86.1 KB 
ID:	1773336

    The legend of the Beale describes their Perilous Enterprise where the stones list their dates and the word "Peligroza" as being the key word being the only non capitalized word.
    I have had some luck with the Peralta Stones map. I have determined one location that is on the map. Can you refer me to someone interested in working to finding what is hidden there?

  6. #2496

    Jul 2018
    14
    18 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Hello to those of you that hunt the Dutch. I've read your post about the Peralta stones and I must tell you they are very real and YES they give very precise directions to the location of the end of the trail where the horse can be found carved on a rock face north of the river just like it says. Before you start to decipher the maps you first have to learn the language. It's not spanish, it's Latin. One clue in particular is always misinterpreted from Spanish instead of Latin. That's this one, El Caboyo de Sante Fe. That says "The horse of the saint " not the horse of santa Fe. Also you must know that the Saint side is Jesuit. The Saint was made by Father Eusibio Kino's ppl long before the Peraltas came to town. The Peraltas found it and used it in their maps cuz it was so cool. Now we that know about the stones know that the trail starts at knife hill. But then where do you go next ? Well if you look you will find that the knife is pointing up a little. It's pointing to another clue. There's a small nap up near the top of knife hill. It's the horizon to the east of knife hill. The map leads you to the saint hill. So now your at the saint, so where to now ? The saint is pointing at something, but what ? This is where it gets good. I have to learn how to post a picture before I can show you anything but I will soon. Here's a teaser clue. The tail of the horse is Queen Creek.

  7. #2497

    Jul 2018
    14
    18 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Very interesting, but very wrong ! The horse can be seen carved on a rock face looking the same way as on the map and it's EXACTLY as drawn on the map, no abstract guessing needed. BUT it can only be seen for 15 minutes a day at noon in the middle of the summer because it's a shadow carving. You can see the shadow of the carving on the rock as the sun rises to the right angle then just as fast as it appears it vanishes from view. I found it several years ago but my affliction of addiction prevented me from moving forward with it's discovery. I'm sober now and this year I'm going to document it's location with my partner and yes I will post pictures of it all including all the deciphered clues that lead up to it. Stay tuned for more to come.
    coazon de oro and weekender like this.

  8. #2498
    us
    Chuck Chatsko

    Jun 2012
    HOUSTON
    Garrett pro-something
    412
    515 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Stones = Puzzle

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Puzzle.jpg 
Views:	16 
Size:	579.3 KB 
ID:	1851848 Took a copy and overlayed it on GE, then used the tools/ruler option. Made circles from the X`s. 2=3-@-18=7, drew a line from the 3 to where the circles meet and to the other side. From there the 1 in the 18 lines up to that point. From there lines match up with other things. I think 7 could be a reference point of 7 somethings or treasure. It would be nice to know what it all means. Anybody else got anything to add?
    Ecclesiastes 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

  9. #2499
    gr
    Oct 2012
    White's Spectrum XLT
    3,426
    5420 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by 393stroker View Post
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Puzzle.jpg 
Views:	16 
Size:	579.3 KB 
ID:	1851848 Took a copy and overlayed it on GE, then used the tools/ruler option. Made circles from the X`s. 2=3-@-18=7, drew a line from the 3 to where the circles meet and to the other side. From there the 1 in the 18 lines up to that point. From there lines match up with other things. I think 7 could be a reference point of 7 somethings or treasure. It would be nice to know what it all means. Anybody else got anything to add?
    I believe means " All go around but nobody on the path" ?
    IMHO, the map is simple if someone knows where the Trail lies. Is a trail to test your beliefs, hard and dangerous.
    Marius

    If your true to your heart, you will never go wrong. The truth is the truth, no matter how you look at it, and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth. It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





  10. #2500

    Jan 2014
    2,086
    3880 times
    Quote Originally Posted by 393stroker View Post
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Puzzle.jpg 
Views:	16 
Size:	579.3 KB 
ID:	1851848 Took a copy and overlayed it on GE, then used the tools/ruler option. Made circles from the X`s. 2=3-@-18=7, drew a line from the 3 to where the circles meet and to the other side. From there the 1 in the 18 lines up to that point. From there lines match up with other things. I think 7 could be a reference point of 7 somethings or treasure. It would be nice to know what it all means. Anybody else got anything to add?
    The number 7 represents something that is "finished" or "complete," or a that you've accomplished a task or reached a destination, especially as far as the bible is concerned ("On the 7th day, God rested."). So 18 = 7 could be taken to mean that you've reached your destination (the heart) after going 18 places.

  11. #2501
    us
    Fortune Favors the BOLD, while Karma Favors the Wise!

    Jan 2006
    Arizona Vagrant
    Whites GMT 24k / Fisher FX-3 / Fisher Gold Bug II / Fisher Gemini / Schiebel MIMID
    6,656
    7168 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by deducer View Post
    The number 7 represents something that is "finished" or "complete," or a that you've accomplished a task or reached a destination, especially as far as the bible is concerned ("On the 7th day, God rested."). So 18 = 7 could be taken to mean that you've reached your destination (the heart) after going 18 places.
    Sorry buddy, but that isn't what "7" means. If it is in the field, it means that there is a protected campsite near where the "7" is carved. If it is shown on a map, it means Gold (5 means Silver).

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	7bsm.jpg 
Views:	40 
Size:	59.4 KB 
ID:	1852412

    Mike
    deducer, Phil and Idahodutch like this.
    "You wouldn't like me when I'm mad, because I back up my rage with hard facts and logic!" - The Credible Hulk

    ............... ALWAYS REMEMBER: When you make a typo, the errorists win...................Aloha Snackbar!

  12. #2502

    Jan 2014
    2,086
    3880 times
    Quote Originally Posted by gollum View Post
    Sorry buddy, but that isn't what "7" means. If it is in the field, it means that there is a protected campsite near where the "7" is carved. If it is shown on a map, it means Gold (5 means Silver).

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	7bsm.jpg 
Views:	40 
Size:	59.4 KB 
ID:	1852412

    Mike
    That interpretation is Spanish based, isn't it?

  13. #2503
    gr
    Oct 2012
    White's Spectrum XLT
    3,426
    5420 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by gollum View Post
    Sorry buddy, but that isn't what "7" means. If it is in the field, it means that there is a protected campsite near where the "7" is carved. If it is shown on a map, it means Gold (5 means Silver).

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	7bsm.jpg 
Views:	40 
Size:	59.4 KB 
ID:	1852412

    Mike
    Mike is right and the five dots on the Horse stone map represent silver mines. Also that region depicted in the Horse stone map has a close relation with the lost Ship silver mine, related also to the Chest and Ship stone maps carved by Travis Tumlinson.
    But to explain what relation has the lost Ship silver ( mentioned also by Edgar Cayce ) mine with the silver mines in the Horse stone map:
    First the name of " Ship " was adopted from the triangle shape landmark above the mine which in their imagination was simulated with a front part of a ship. The design/symbol on the chest map ( which also is situated beside the mine as a landmark/sign ) is a mirrored image of the triangle, but this doesn't prompt to reverse the image , but reveals how there are two places to find.
    These are two GE images from the loost Ship mine. In the first is more recognizable the triangle above the mine and the mirrored triangle symbol from the Chest design ( in the yellow rectangle from the second image ). In the second image is more recognizable the mine ( in the white cloud ) and the manner they have covered it. The manner they covered it is like a fingerprint and an example to what someone has to search for in regards to find the other mine/s at the second place ( second half triangle ).

    Name:  Ship mine.jpg
Views: 74
Size:  20.7 KB Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Lost Ship mine.jpg 
Views:	14 
Size:	35.7 KB 
ID:	1852703

    Now , to find the second place someone has to decipher the numbers 1535 from the Chest map and to follow direction from the Ship mine. And while at the second place, there we find the second mirrored triangle sign and the mines which are covered in the same manner with the Ship mine.
    Accidentally or not, the second place of the Ship map is the same place of the five dots ( silver mines ) from the Horse stone map. Was the Ship/Chest maps made only for the silver mines?
    Here is a GE image of the second Ship map region, and you can recognize the second mirrored triangle sign ( in the red rectangle ) and the five silver mines depicted in the Horse stone map. Like you can see, the mines are covered in the same manner with the Ship mine and has the same formation like in the Horse map. Seems to be more than five mines there, but maybe the author of the Horse stone map wanted to confuse and to relate the dots to the number five.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Silver mines Horse stone map.jpg 
Views:	13 
Size:	66.2 KB 
ID:	1852705

    Two different maps for the same region reveals the accuracy.
    Last edited by markmar; Jul 29, 2020 at 04:28 PM.
    Marius

    If your true to your heart, you will never go wrong. The truth is the truth, no matter how you look at it, and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth. It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





  14. #2504
    us
    Nov 2009
    138
    270 times
    The hole is where Travis Tumlinson inserted a candle while he carved them.
    Phil and Crow like this.

  15. #2505
    us
    Apr 2006
    minelab 3500
    45
    14 times
    I joined this forum many years ago with the express intent to read, not write about a subject which is near and dear to my heart and many of yours: The Stone Maps. I can honestly say that although I don't agree with very much of what has been declared to be the truth about the maps, I have enjoyed the discourse. Many of you are very well informed.
    It always struck me as odd that most, if not all, of the conversation about the Maps, dealt with subject matter that seemed to me to be unknowable in spite of much research by many people. The who, what and why of the Maps could never be answered unless the only true and available data, which is contained on the Maps, was applied.
    Over the years many well-spoken voices have declared them to be a hoax and I guess if I couldn't figure them out that's what I would say just to save face. They are not a hoax. In fact they are an incredibly accurate map. I say map because all four stones are involved and they show one continuous journey from the starting point to the End of the Trail. All you need to do is follow the map.

    Many have found clues that led them to believe they had found a piece of the puzzle or code. The problem, is it's not a puzzle at is a Map. The difference between those two concepts is monumental. The clues or pieces of a puzzle are randomly selected and as a consequence, are individual clues that do not lead to the next one. If you find a rock that looks like a clue, what do you look for next? A map on the other hand, must have clues that are sequential; one leads to the next, in order to be followed. Not at all random.
    A few important things that must be contained within a map are:

    1. Starting Point
    2. Compass Orientation.
    3. Direction of Travel
    4. And if you were in the desert, Where's the water.


    All of these points are addressed on the Stone Maps. They are clear and no code is needed to interpret them. Only an understanding of maps. Everything needed to use a map is contained on the map.

    It mystifies me that the discussions regarding the Stone Maps do not concentrate on the carvings on the Maps, the only real data associated with them. Most of the conversation focuses on parts of a story that can never be answered only argued. Only by following the clues on the map to the end of the trail and seeing the place the maps were carved to locate can provide the real story.



    This is the end of the trail.

    If you would like the REAL story check out
    letstalktreasure.com
    Phil, Ryano and Dirt1955 like this.

 

 

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

1847 in a heart on a treasure map
,
florence arizona homesteads 1900
,
old military trail superstition mountains
,
peralta stone code.
,

peralta stone map symbols

,

peralta stones

,
peralta stones latin heart translation
,

peralta stones translation

,
peralta treasure.
,
superstition mountains old military trail aerial photos
Click on a term to search for related topics.
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.3.0