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  1. #21
    us
    Feb 2005
    Bavaria Germany
    Minelab XT70, Fisher 1280, Garrett Ace 250 and MH5
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Amazing find JD, very nice! HH, Mike

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  3. #22

    Jun 2004
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Good thing you just didn't cast it aside as just a slug, but rather, soaked it awhile. I didn't think you'd find something that old around here. Mayhaps a Spanish Conquistador lost it while searching for gold. They too were here. Great find JD.

  4. #23
    The Morbid One

    Sep 2005
    Sterling Heights, Michigan
    Garrett Ace 250
    117

    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Very cool find JD...
    ~~Mr. Morbid The Morbid One~~

  5. #24
    Kentucky Kache

    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Whatever it is, It's an old one. Great find.

  6. #25
    savage59

    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    spanish copper MARVIDAS ebays full of them.

  7. #26
    WWATS: Director for the State of Missouri

    Sep 2003
    mid-missouri
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    thanks MalteseFalcon for the info, although its basically worthless I'm still glad to have something that old.
    10,000 light years from nowhere, our planet shot to pieces, people starving, and I'm gonna get us in trouble!! Whats the matter with you!?

    http://www.reverbnation.com/akiaslanfear

  8. #27

    May 2005
    Iowa
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    OK, I have to ask... Does anyone else see the goose head on the right of the right picture, or am I crazy?

  9. #28

    Sep 2004
    Mt. Vernon, Indiana
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Awesome J.D., I think I'll pay more attention to some of the things I throw away thinking they are just junk. Keep it up. Dan

  10. #29
    pl
    Jul 2005
    Warsaw-Poland
    White's Prizm V
    268

    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Really nice one J.D. !!!

    Looks like copper coin, great condition !!!
    Congrats !!!!!

    Pozdrawiam Matejko
    "Never give up Your purpose, even if getting to it takes time... Time will pass anyway..."
    'Pozdrawiam" means "Greetings" in Polish.

  11. #30
    us
    Aug 2005
    Woodlawn, Texas
    Garrett Ace 250 & ole Tesoro Silver Sabre
    213
    3 times
    Metal Detecting

    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    It's only 300 years older than my oldest coin find! Big deal! (Just kidding!) That is an awesome find!
    And many more....
    "Have Garrett, Will Travel"

  12. #31
    WWATS: Director for the State of Missouri

    Sep 2003
    mid-missouri
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    thanks everyone
    10,000 light years from nowhere, our planet shot to pieces, people starving, and I'm gonna get us in trouble!! Whats the matter with you!?

    http://www.reverbnation.com/akiaslanfear

  13. #32

    Sep 2005
    23

    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    I'm not so sure it's a maraveides...
    The VII is present, and it seems the shield/crest as well, but look at the placement ov the VIII in relation to the shield/crest shape. J.D.'s coin has the VII on the SIDE of what would be the shield/crest, while the maraveides you posted has the VII OVER or on the top of... she sheild/crest.

    Also, the left picture really doesn't have much more than the date visible, however there are some markings that are somewhat distinguishable on the right picture, and they don't seem consistent with the ones you posted. I realize that the ones you posted are obviously not of the same strike design, but they are both fairly consistent with the placement of relevant numbers on either side of the crests, and both seem to date 1610-1640

  14. #33
    wpricetr

    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    I see the goose to on the right side of the coin / token so i dont think your crazy
    (unless i am too)
    Great find Way cool

  15. #34
    us
    Jul 2004
    Indy
    Cz3d
    3,836

    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Wow!!! Great find, WTG!!!
    It's just a little bit older than the way I feel these days...
    Good luck & Happy hunting~

  16. #35

    Aug 2005
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Actually at first I thought it might have been a UK coin from the reign of Charles I, as coins struck during his reign had a VII on it. But then I happened to find the page I noted above, and discovered that there is a lot of inconsistency between coins of this type (Spanish), as there are some that were minted, then overstruck, then overstruck again, and there were many that were overstruck with a VIII for some reason. Note that it appears to be a VIII instead of a VII, it is just that there is not much left of the last "I" other than the bottom of it...

    In the above case, as I mentioned before, the VIII is not in the same location from coin to coin, as it is an overstrike (not on it originally). So it's location relevant to the shield cannot be expected to be consistent.

    That said, I am in NO WAY an expert on European coins of the 17th Century. I guess I am just posting my amateurish opinion as to what it is.

    I think we can agree on the date, though, and that J.D. made a really cool discovery!

    Let's root for him to discover an old powderkeg filled with gold and silver coins!



  17. #36
    us
    Ace250man

    Jul 2004
    Shelbyville or any yard where the owner will let me detect!
    ace 250
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    Metal Detecting
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    thats an awesome find. keep on digging !!!
    ALLEN

  18. #37
    417 Relic Hunters

    Apr 2005
    Nixa, Missouri
    Whites DFX
    157
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Just tell us what state or country you found it in! Dont need a city or anything like that, just a state or country or even a region.

    Fellow Missourian!
    Chris

  19. #38
    Charter Member
    us
    MINELAB XS-2 Pro ....... XTERRA 305 ....... EXPLORER SE PRO

    Dec 2003
    S.W. Schuylkill County
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    HERE is a Lightend Pic of your Find jd.

    I'd bet you Found it in N.J. , Pa or Delaware.

    Were you EVER at Coin Beach ?
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  20. #39
    Charter Member
    us
    MINELAB XS-2 Pro ....... XTERRA 305 ....... EXPLORER SE PRO

    Dec 2003
    S.W. Schuylkill County
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rtde3
    Jeff, I don't think the coins at Coin beach are that old. the coin there are from the wreck of the Faithful Steward that went down in 1785.
    Have you had any luck there? I have hunted it a few times but found just clad. Have you been to the ship wreck museum in Fenwick DE? http://www.discoversea.com/Homex.html
    I'v Never Been Down There ROB ;

    However My Understanding WAS, There Are Many ships Off Shore.

    Since I havn't Even Reacherd The Area , I guess I was Wrong.

  21. #40
    WWATS: Director for the State of Missouri

    Sep 2003
    mid-missouri
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    Re: 1641 yeah baby!!!!!!!!

    Jeff, thanks for helping with the pics bud!!!!!!!!!! check for a PM
    10,000 light years from nowhere, our planet shot to pieces, people starving, and I'm gonna get us in trouble!! Whats the matter with you!?

    http://www.reverbnation.com/akiaslanfear

 

 
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