Weird 3 Ringer

RiverRat3

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I was able to get out for a one hour hunt with my brother today. He actually had the find of the day, found a CW button. I am sure he will be posting it later (Jimmy D). I got a strong hit and dug a three ringer. I noticed the top had been hollowed out. At first I was thinking hollow point but new better for that time frame. Within five feet I dug another three ringer and it had the same thing. When I got home I cleaned the bullet and the hollow tip appears to have screw marks. I was told that if a bullet gets lodged in the gun there was a device to remove it. Any further information would be helpful. Thanks for looking.
 

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ivan salis

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those are pulled bullets ( it the powder was no good the bullet had to be pulled and dumped -- or if you screwed up and in a rush shoved a bullet down the barrel with no powder under it a common "newbie" mistake in high pressure battles)--the device used to pull them is called a "worm" or bullet puller --it looked like a modern screwwith a theaded end instead of a head--it was made of steel andthe threaded end screwed into the end of a ram rod and the cork screw type part was twisted into the soft lead bullet where it drilled its way into it --you then yanked it out and unscrewed it from the worm --dropping the bullet and dumping the dud powder -- you could now reload "properly"
 

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ivan salis said:
those are pulled bullets ( it the powder was no good the bullet had to be pulled and dumped -- or if you screwed up and in a rush shoved a bullet down the barrel with no powder under it a common "newbie" mistake in high pressure battles)--the device used to pull them is called a "worm" or bullet puller --it looked like a modern corkscrew with a theaded end--it was made of steel and the threaded end screwed into the end of a ram rod and the cork screw type part was twisted into the soft lead bullet where it drilled its way into it --you then yanked it out and unscrewed it from the worm --dropping the bullet and dumping the dud powder -- you could now reload "properly"

Thanks very much for the information. I hope it wasnt the same soldier cause he may have been having a bad day.
 

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RiverRat3 said:
ivan salis said:
those are pulled bullets ( it the powder was no good the bullet had to be pulled and dumped -- or if you screwed up and in a rush shoved a bullet down the barrel with no powder under it a common "newbie" mistake in high pressure battles)--the device used to pull them is called a "worm" or bullet puller --it looked like a modern corkscrew with a theaded end--it was made of steel and the threaded end screwed into the end of a ram rod and the cork screw type part was twisted into the soft lead bullet where it drilled its way into it --you then yanked it out and unscrewed it from the worm --dropping the bullet and dumping the dud powder -- you could now reload "properly"

Thanks very much for the information. I hope it wasnt the same soldier cause he may have been having a bad day.

a Williams cleaner may helped if they were in one of there many practice drills.
If not, than it could have been a deadly mistake not to seat the bullet on the charge.
I think it was Gettysburg that they found a musket with 23 loads lodged in the barrel from panic of the Battle.

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nova treasure said:
RiverRat3 said:
ivan salis said:
those are pulled bullets ( it the powder was no good the bullet had to be pulled and dumped -- or if you screwed up and in a rush shoved a bullet down the barrel with no powder under it a common "newbie" mistake in high pressure battles)--the device used to pull them is called a "worm" or bullet puller --it looked like a modern corkscrew with a theaded end--it was made of steel and the threaded end screwed into the end of a ram rod and the cork screw type part was twisted into the soft lead bullet where it drilled its way into it --you then yanked it out and unscrewed it from the worm --dropping the bullet and dumping the dud powder -- you could now reload "properly"

Thanks very much for the information. I hope it wasnt the same soldier cause he may have been having a bad day.

a Williams cleaner may helped if they were in one of there many practice drills.
If not, than it could have been a deadly mistake not to seat the bullet on the charge.
I think it was Gettysburg that they found a musket with 23 loads lodged in the barrel from panic of the Battle.

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Thanks for the information. I also heard about the rifle with 23 rounds from Gettysburg.
 

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two pulled bullets that close together --good chance from the same fellow --bad batch of powder or if in battle maybe he dry loaded his weapon (forgot to dump the powderload down the barrel first before ramming home the bullet --a very common newbie nistake in battle or maybe the powder charge was no good ( blackpowder would easily suck up dampness ruining it )--either way out the bullet had to come to clear the barrel for a new "fresh set up of powder and bullet"--if in battle this could get you killed easily since you could not fire your weapon until it was properly reloaded-- thus the old saying" keep your powder dry"
 

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Above scenarios all true and very likely,but you may also be close to an encampment.They would "worm",or unload there weapons upon returning to camp as well.
 

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guns if left loaded over night would often gather dampness into the powder charges in the barrels due to condinsate from hot / cold temp changes of the metal barrels ( I modern blackpowder hunt and still would not leave my gun loaded over night in hunt camp due to this factor)-- thus they had to be reloaded with a fresh load in the morning -- often when returning from pickett duty to camp to prevent accidents "in camp" guns were un capped and then unloaded by worming out the bullet at the edge of camp --firing the weapon could cause a false alarm or even give away the units location to nearby enemy forces -- of course if the area was thought of as secure target practice could have taken place as well.
 

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Maybe the one gentleman was the only one near by witha worm...I would make the newbies walk to me to unload...lol

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