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  1. #1
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    DIG, RECOVER, PRESERVE...THE SCOURGE OF THE DIRT!

    Jan 2007
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    1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROYAL FARTHING Coin! CLEANED PICS ADDED

    HI Y'all, I just CANNOT believe it I am pretty Stunned right now We went out digging this morning with no real sites

    in mind and spent the first couple hours digging some colonial buckles and civil war items....when we decided to go

    back to a spot that we have hit before and hit a couple days ago....First 5 minutes I dug a 1898 V-Nickel which is

    pretty cool in its own right.......then I came across a signal hitting about +18 to +20 on the MXT and I was

    debating on digging it...but as you know that old addage...DIG EVERYTHING...IT REALLY REALLY applies here

    where I live because LOTS of Colonial flat buttons and flower buttons hit in that range.....SO, I popped it out and

    out popped this little disc about the size of a Half-Reale....I could read the CAROLVS plan as day on it and we were

    debating whether it was copper or silver as it was only hitting in the +40s when I got it out....Anyway, its copper

    and its very thin and very old.... I was going to post the stuff I found yesterday which consisted of an 1852

    Large Cent, a mystery copper that looks to be 1800s with Hindu writing and a wreath and these other items and I

    WAS HAPPY WITH THOSE THINGS!!! Which is why this is UNBELIEVEABLE icing on the cake and after just digging that early

    1700s French silver 3 days ago....


    Type: 1625-1649 (Charles I) Royal Farthing
    Obverse Legend: CAROLV(S) DG MAG BRI (Charles by the grace of God King of Great Britain)
    Obverse: Single arched crown over two sceptres
    Reverse Legend: FRA ET HIB REX (France and Ireland)


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    CLEANED

    With dirt patina
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    With oil
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    Reverse (This back is going to clean up nice, all the detail is there, its just going to take me longer to clean the dirt
    buildup off of it as this was the side facing up....It should come off after a couple days in oil
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    Thanks guys for looking!
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  2. #2

    Mar 2008
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    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    awesome piece of copper there, Sentinel!
    i'd say you've well broken out of that "cold spell" you were speaking of earlier.
    keep digging!
    dirty pennies...

  3. #3
    Charter Member
    DIG, RECOVER, PRESERVE...THE SCOURGE OF THE DIRT!

    Jan 2007
    Virginia
    TEKNETICS T-2 LTD, Fisher F-75, White's MXT w/ 11 x 14" Excelerator Coil, WHITES Pulse TDI, WHITES Beach Hunter ID, Garrett Propointer and Lesche Digging Tool
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    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Very uncommon find in North America!

    Royal Farthing, rose farthings are a little different.
    Thanks IP....I saw the Rose Farthing and it had the identical face...what's the difference?



  4. #4
    Charter Member
    DIG, RECOVER, PRESERVE...THE SCOURGE OF THE DIRT!

    Jan 2007
    Virginia
    TEKNETICS T-2 LTD, Fisher F-75, White's MXT w/ 11 x 14" Excelerator Coil, WHITES Pulse TDI, WHITES Beach Hunter ID, Garrett Propointer and Lesche Digging Tool
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    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch

    First two pics is the Royal. Other than design, the rose is smaller, and not usually completely round.
    Cool, I actually like it better!



  5. #5

    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    First two pics is the Royal. Other than design, the rose is smaller, and not usually completely round. You got the better of the two for sure!
    Also, if its a Royal Farthing (with harp), then its older than the Rose farthing

    PS. If you come over here, you need to listen for the broken half's of these as well. As you say, dig it all
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.

  6. #6
    gb
    May 2008
    uk
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    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROYAL FARTHING Coin!

    I found a Royal Farthing this year, but it's now in two bits
    Who needs Cartwheel Pennies anyway?

  7. #7

    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROYAL FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch

    Excellent history of these for anyone who wants to read it.

    http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColC...ens.intro.html
    Seen it, was just about to say they were counterfeited But this looks the real deal
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.

  8. #8

    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROYAL FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch

    Excellent history of these for anyone who wants to read it.

    http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColC...ens.intro.html
    Seen it, was just about to say they were counterfeited But this looks the real deal

    Yep, no question about that and I can recognize the obvious ones, but since there's many varieties, and most dug aren't perfect, it's often hard to tell. If it says CARA it's a good indication.
    Sadly, I pay little attention to the varieties, as you say too many, plus they just get bagged up with all the others. I do like them though as a indicator for a possible hammered (Silver).

    Sentinel,
    This should be on the Banner, can you get good pictures of both sides?
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.

  9. #9
    Charter Member
    DIG, RECOVER, PRESERVE...THE SCOURGE OF THE DIRT!

    Jan 2007
    Virginia
    TEKNETICS T-2 LTD, Fisher F-75, White's MXT w/ 11 x 14" Excelerator Coil, WHITES Pulse TDI, WHITES Beach Hunter ID, Garrett Propointer and Lesche Digging Tool
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    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    First two pics is the Royal. Other than design, the rose is smaller, and not usually completely round. You got the better of the two for sure!
    Also, if its a Royal Farthing (with harp), then its older than the Rose farthing

    PS. If you come over here, you need to listen for the broken half's of these as well. As you say, dig it all
    Yes, I just cleaned the back and it does indeed have the harp...So what you're saying is that the Royal farthing would be toward the earlier end of the 1625-1649 time span then?

    Well we know they were made inbetween this time period and if you say they are generally earlier than it is safe to say that this one is probably 1620s or 1630s I would think.....but no matter really, even if it was the latest possible date (1649) I would be JUST as happy!



  10. #10

    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by {Sentinel}
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    First two pics is the Royal. Other than design, the rose is smaller, and not usually completely round. You got the better of the two for sure!
    Also, if its a Royal Farthing (with harp), then its older than the Rose farthing

    PS. If you come over here, you need to listen for the broken half's of these as well. As you say, dig it all
    Yes, I just cleaned the back and it does indeed have the harp...So what you're saying is that the Royal farthing would be toward the earlier end of the 1625-1649 time span then?
    They started before the Rose, but overlapped. Not sure how to tell an early one from a later one (I just count them as earlier)
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.

  11. #11
    Charter Member
    DIG, RECOVER, PRESERVE...THE SCOURGE OF THE DIRT!

    Jan 2007
    Virginia
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    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by {Sentinel}
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    First two pics is the Royal. Other than design, the rose is smaller, and not usually completely round. You got the better of the two for sure!
    Also, if its a Royal Farthing (with harp), then its older than the Rose farthing

    PS. If you come over here, you need to listen for the broken half's of these as well. As you say, dig it all
    Yes, I just cleaned the back and it does indeed have the harp...So what you're saying is that the Royal farthing would be toward the earlier end of the 1625-1649 time span then?
    They started before the Rose, but overlapped. Not sure how to tell an early one from a later one (I just count them as earlier)
    Thanks Cru......Man, if this isn't a banner find for the U.S. then there ain't one......I KNOW for certain I'll probably not dig a coin again thats older than this one unless I get extremely lucky.....I mean Jamestown, the seed of America, was founded in 1607...were talking of a matter of 20 years from the founding of the American Colonies at Jamestown!



  12. #12

    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by {Sentinel}
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by {Sentinel}
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    First two pics is the Royal. Other than design, the rose is smaller, and not usually completely round. You got the better of the two for sure!
    Also, if its a Royal Farthing (with harp), then its older than the Rose farthing

    PS. If you come over here, you need to listen for the broken half's of these as well. As you say, dig it all
    Yes, I just cleaned the back and it does indeed have the harp...So what you're saying is that the Royal farthing would be toward the earlier end of the 1625-1649 time span then?
    They started before the Rose, but overlapped. Not sure how to tell an early one from a later one (I just count them as earlier)
    Thanks Cru......Man, if this isn't a banner find for the U.S. then there ain't one......I KNOW for certain I'll probably not dig a coin again thats older than this one unless I get extremely lucky.....I mean Jamestown, the seed of America, was founded in 1607...were talking of a matter of 20 years from the founding of the American Colonies at Jamestown!
    Exactly, my votes in. Pretty sure I read they dug these in Jamestown (yep it was in IP's link plus another source I can't remember)
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.

  13. #13
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    Jun 2009
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    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROYAL FARTHING Coin!

    Holy cow !! your in a great spot there must of been something major there for that many old coins welcome to the 1625 club in the short time i been on TN i never seen that many old dug coins in such a short period of time that is amazing out standing find that has my Banner vote !!! Dd60
    If Mother Earth give,s us precious metals like gold silver copper and iron why leave them in the ground to disappear forever , dig them out and save History !!

    4-12-2011 Retired from the Rat Race by Choice

  14. #14
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    Feb 2010
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    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROYAL FARTHING Coin!

    Nice finds!

  15. #15

    Re: 1625-1649 KING CHARLES I ROSE FARTHING Coin!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by {Sentinel}
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by {Sentinel}
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    First two pics is the Royal. Other than design, the rose is smaller, and not usually completely round. You got the better of the two for sure!
    Also, if its a Royal Farthing (with harp), then its older than the Rose farthing

    PS. If you come over here, you need to listen for the broken half's of these as well. As you say, dig it all
    Yes, I just cleaned the back and it does indeed have the harp...So what you're saying is that the Royal farthing would be toward the earlier end of the 1625-1649 time span then?
    They started before the Rose, but overlapped. Not sure how to tell an early one from a later one (I just count them as earlier)
    Thanks Cru......Man, if this isn't a banner find for the U.S. then there ain't one......I KNOW for certain I'll probably not dig a coin again thats older than this one unless I get extremely lucky.....I mean Jamestown, the seed of America, was founded in 1607...were talking of a matter of 20 years from the founding of the American Colonies at Jamestown!

    Well they date before the trade tokens and Timekiller's made it to the banner.... eventually.

    There's obviously a very old site there.... older than I've ever hunted.
    very possible, due to minimal wear.
    Sentinel,
    Is it possible in your area to have this mid-1600s site?
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.

 

 
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