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  1. #16
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    Mar 2009
    Oklahoma
    Tesoro Tejon
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    Re: Token Cache !!!

    Hey again, Thanks for everyones input and info. I really don't know much of anything about tokens. I did run over them with a magnet and nothing happened.
    So, I dont know what metal they could be. It looks like at one time they may have had a brass/bronze plating on them. The only two denominations i have found in the cache are 5 cent and 25 cent tokens.
    Ok, I went back out this evening and did alittle more detecting on that spot and came up with 5 more tokens. That makes 30 tokens alltogether sofar! This is my first cache of anything worth noting and i've been pretty excited about it! Gotta hear that BEEP!
    Thanks again all... buckshot
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  2. #17
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    Mar 2009
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    Re: Token Cache !!!

    Thems some mighty fancy washers you got there! That one number 17,460, matches some from yesterday, doesn't it/ it'll be neat to see how many numbers match. don't know what it'll mean, but it'll be neat. did rufus help?

  3. #18
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    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    gambling tokens / slot tokens * -- were often used in attempt to get around the law --- you bought "tokens" that were often marked -- no cash value *-- in some cases the "no cash value" slot token was the same roughly size and shape wize as the coin value it was meant to represent --- by demonitizing the token --marking it as having "no cash or trade value -- for amusement only" --was often marked on em - making them as "valueless" like that made it hard for the cops to bust you for running a gambling machine -- often the nickle type machines were set up in such a way that that upon each play they "sold" you a gumball or stick of gum --thus "legally speaking" it was a gum vending machine that had a "fun game" built into it -- these were called "trade stimulaters"--of course in real life if no cops were looking the tokens were redeemed with cash --as it really was a gambling machine after all.

  4. #19
    us
    Aug 2007
    north Florida
    ace 250, 1974 Whites coinmaster 2/d
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    I recently found a cache of very similar tokens, I found 11 and I let my hunting buddy sweep my area to get some too.He found 8, so we came up with 21 total. I think mine were contemprary with yours, from what I can tell. The area we found ours in , we also found coins dated from 1896 to 1927, so I would lean towards 1920's era .I noticed all the ones in my cache had the same vendor number, where as I noticed you had some different vendors in your "pile", I think that is interesting,and possibly means it was a "collection", as opposed to being in use when lost.Not to get your hopes up, but I was offered 150 bucks for mine, and took it ! I didn't even have time for pictures!But Ebay offers similar ones for .99 cents pretty often.
    I know how you felt when you found your stash, cool feelin, huh?
    Believe.

  5. #20
    us
    Jan 2010
    New Hampshire
    Whatever Beeps
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    Great Cache Find!
    Interesting reading here,
    I can see myself finding one with some of the numbers obscured, 1740!!
    Desire is oft more pleasant than acquisition

  6. #21

    Feb 2008
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    Back to slot machine tokens: What would stop using a 5c in a 25c machine if they were the same size? Having different values the same size just don't size up. So to speak.

    Today's "Pickle Pot" is a good example of "legal" gambling. Very popular in our local Elks. I have some punchboards from the 30's to pre war (green Lucky Strike Packs) and 50s that paid off in cigarettes.

  7. #22
    us
    May 2008
    Central South Carolina
    White's Machines- Metal Detecting, Privy Digging, Arrowheads, Prospecting, Catfishing, Harley Riding
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    I was trying to keep from having to type all of this but here goes.
    From the book, “Tokens And Medals“:
    Antique collectors define a “slot machine” to be a coin operated gambling machine that automatically pays winners in coins (or tokens at the option of the operator). This differs from similar “trade stimulator” machines which either have no automatic payout, or pay out in tokens only. Slot machines first became popular in the 1890’s, and many used tokens to get around anti-gambling laws or for security or psychological reasons (players more readily replay tokens than coins). By the 1920’s to 1940’s, many slot machine tokens carried phrases such as “For Amusement Only,” “No Cash Value,” and “Not Redeemable.” Many slot machines had vending components attached to or built into the machine. They dispensed mints, gum, candy or music, so the machine could qualify as a vending machine and not an illegal gambling machine. Replayed tokens with a hole in the center would not vend additional candy or gum. Many such tokens mention mints or confections. Other machines had game themes (such as baseball) with associated tokens. Most of these tokens are nickel size, as nickel slot machines were most prevalent back then.

  8. #23

    Feb 2008
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    Ok, Eddie. But you didn't mention before that the hole in the center didn't allow for replay of the token. That makes it a "pay out" only. That makes sense. And the only place to redeem it was in the little bodega at the back of the bar. Ok. So perhaps there were 5c tokens in the nickel machines and 25c tokens in the quarter machines? Let me know if I am getting the big picture here. I am interested.

    I have seen the "No Cash Value" in use. Occasionally, you see the machine with the bars that go back and forth, pushing coins off the end into a chute that drops into a tray in front of you and you take them out? WRONG. Very seldom do they get pushed into the pay off area. I have often seen quarters in this machine, but once at the fairgrounds, there was a huge trailer with 20 or so of these machines that opened up, and they all had the "NCV". I think the tokens are thinner than a nickel, smaller than a quarter, so neither of the coins can be inserted into the device. And pennies and dimes fall through a slot in the bottom of the runway. I have also found some of the "NCV" tokens while detecting, but the tokens in question here are infinitely more interesting.

    Thanks, Eddie, for doing all that typing. I am edified by your efforts. So to speak.

  9. #24
    us
    Nov 2008
    Toll Free ~ 855~966~3563
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    Holy Token spill!

  10. #25
    us
    Mar 2009
    Oklahoma
    Tesoro Tejon
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by High Plains Digger
    Ok, Eddie. But you didn't mention before that the hole in the center didn't allow for replay of the token. That makes it a "pay out" only. That makes sense. And the only place to redeem it was in the little bodega at the back of the bar. Ok. So perhaps there were 5c tokens in the nickel machines and 25c tokens in the quarter machines? Let me know if I am getting the big picture here. I am interested.

    I have seen the "No Cash Value" in use. Occasionally, you see the machine with the bars that go back and forth, pushing coins off the end into a chute that drops into a tray in front of you and you take them out? WRONG. Very seldom do they get pushed into the pay off area. I have often seen quarters in this machine, but once at the fairgrounds, there was a huge trailer with 20 or so of these machines that opened up, and they all had the "NCV". I think the tokens are thinner than a nickel, smaller than a quarter, so neither of the coins can be inserted into the device. And pennies and dimes fall through a slot in the bottom of the runway. I have also found some of the "NCV" tokens while detecting, but the tokens in question here are infinitely more interesting.

    Thanks, Eddie, for doing all that typing. I am edified by your efforts. So to speak.
    Hey HPD, This cache find has peaked my interest in these type tokens! I'm a novice as far as being knowlegable about them. But, i did compare these 5cent tokens to a nickle and they are pretty close if not the same size diameter.The 25cent tokens same as a quarter and both 5/25 tokens thinner than the minted coinage. I find the colorful history associated with these tokens to be quite interesting!
    I have a breakdown of the numbers on backside 5cent tokens:
    1-Blank
    1-1268
    1-3152
    1-3684
    1-20089
    1-26475
    1-26767
    1-30864
    1-31583
    1-?450
    No duplicate number tokens in this group of 10...
    buckshot
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  11. #26

    Feb 2008
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    Very interesting. I went down and found a couple of mine. Remember, I purchased several hundred of these, so out of these few, there are variations in the metal, the style of lettering, holes, and numbers. The ones with duplicate numbers, I put a numbered one below it. Also included a NCV For Amusement Only just to tie in with the rest of the thread. By the way, these are dime size or maybe a bit smaller.

    Want to trade a couple of yours for several of mine?

    Eddie--I suppose these are too generic to be in the token book, but perhaps it mentioned a maker of generic tokens? Anything you can add would be appreciated.

    You know, at first glance I didn't notice the size difference. Too cool. Now I understand how the 5 didn't get put into the 25 machine.
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  12. #27
    us
    May 2008
    Central South Carolina
    White's Machines- Metal Detecting, Privy Digging, Arrowheads, Prospecting, Catfishing, Harley Riding
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    Re: Token Cache !!! Updated! More Tokens!!!

    I have examples with the following numbers:
    6500
    31555
    35054
    45678
    I've researched these often and I've never found any records of any of these.

 

 
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