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    Early Eagle Button, Pewter Spoon, Knee Buckle and much more...

    After some more research, I decided to spend the weekend hitting some hard hit sites. There were no obvious signals left, so I resorted to working the iron and trying to swing where I typically wouldn't... with the hopes that a coil might have not passed over that soil before. Over the course of Saturday and Sunday, my GPS had me hiking 12 miles which doesn't include the miles I walked while detecting! On Saturday I hiked out with about 40lbs of iron in my pack and on Sunday, about 10lbs. It's hard work, but I was rewarded with a few really nice keepers. Most importantly, I got to spend the weekend outdoors and enjoy some cooler weather.

    The group shot! Some of my favorites are the early one piece eagle button, the pewter spoon, knee (hat?) buckle frame, crotal bell, brass wedding ring and early suspender buckles. Whats not pictured is most of the iron keepers that I will work through electrolysis. Somehow a couple rose heads made it into my keeper pouch, but I have a whole mess more that I will tumble.

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    This is perhaps my favorite button yet and I still have no clue what it is! Its a flat, one piece brass cuff button, cast with an applied shank. I currently have a post open in the "what is it" forum (Button Experts - Early Military 1 piece brass cuff) so if I get a proper ID on it, I will update this thread. I believe it might be a very early "US Officials Diplomatic Service Button" or something similar.

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    The backmark is a circle of stars much like the front. You can clearly see the mold seam across the middle

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    I dig a lot of pewter spoon parts. Bowls, handles, bowls with partial handles... but this is my first complete early pewter spoon from end to end. Still on the lookout for a rattail spoon, but I'm getting closer.

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    I was very happy with this knee buckle frame. Pins are lengthwise with a nice floral pattern.

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    This is only my second crotal bell and its huge! Unfortunately its cracked and missing the ball, so there is no ring left in it. When I dug my first one the property owners liked it so much I gave it to them.

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    A very toasty 1804 DBLC turned up and a beat up CW era coat sized 2 piece General Service button. To the right is a very early brass (wedding) band. It has a solder seam where it was connected together. I've dug 3 or 4 of these brass ones at early sites in the past.

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    Thanks for looking and happy hunting everyone!

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    Outdoor--awesome post--thanks for the enjoyable read. The big spoon on the bottom of the first photo looks an awful lot like a CW mess kit spoon we found a month or so ago. Congrats! -Lisa & John
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    Wow, great hunt and nice post! That Eagle button is awesome.

    HH RN
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    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

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    Nice array of finds. Looks like you got some digging done. Congrats!
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    Outstanding digs Brad. That eagle button is in incredible shape and hopefully someone will have an ID for you. That's a lot of hiking you did and hopefully you carried a large camel pack with you.

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    Nice finds! I love the early one piece eagle. I'd say VERY early 1800s diplomatic button. Are you sure the LC is 1804? If so, it's a key date... again. LOL. We should get out again sometime soon now that the weather is cooperating.
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    Really nice early recoveries Brad. That eagle is a stunner. Hope you are back in there soon. Tough to find those spoons intact, nice hunt.
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    Very nice assortment of old finds congrats I think the button is special
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    Man I'm in love with that button. Stylistically as you know it matches OD7 in Alberts book. The only difference is the number of stars. So like we talked about it was likely made soon after Vt became a state. I wish I could find an exact match but in many ways it's better that we can't. It's obviously not a common button and who knows....possibly quite scarce since in 1792 there would have been 15 stars. I'll try to find more info but that is a really great find. And hey if you can't find a rat tail spoon I'm happy to send you one of the many I have lol. Another great hunt that came from putting in the effort. That's what's always rewarded in this hobby
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    Looks like some nice finds. I like that button and crotal bell.
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    That was an incredibly full weekend's worth of digging. Maybe a full week's worth for some.
    I really like the variety of finds.
    Rat tail spoon, rare 1804 LC, buttons, wedding band, crotal bell, buckle, etc. Not to mention the iron you packed.out of there. Maybe you should invest in a mule. Lol
    Congratulations
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    Thanks a ton everyone!

    It certainly was a nice weekend of hunting... a ton of work, but always rewarding in many ways.

    Here is the DBLC. I initially saw an "04", but it could easily be an "00" or an "06". So far two people saw an "00" and two saw an "04"... I was one of the "04" people, but I can easily see if being either of the other two. It doesnt really matter though since its so far gone its really just a copper disk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahab8 View Post
    Man I'm in love with that button. Stylistically as you know it matches OD7 in Alberts book. The only difference is the number of stars. So like we talked about it was likely made soon after Vt became a state. I wish I could find an exact match but in many ways it's better that we can't. It's obviously not a common button and who knows....possibly quite scarce since in 1792 there would have been 15 stars. I'll try to find more info but that is a really great find. And hey if you can't find a rat tail spoon I'm happy to send you one of the many I have lol. Another great hunt that came from putting in the effort. That's what's always rewarded in this hobby
    It doesn't count if I don't dig it One day I'm going to find a rat tail spoon... I know they exist, I saw you pull one from the dirt! I'm very happy with this one though after dozens of partial pieces. I'm thinking I might have to branch out in my search for an ID on this button. It doesn't appear to be in the books... cant decide what I'd prefer; a rare button no one knows what it is, or a button that I can get an ID on!

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    Outstanding hunt Brad!! You really dug a large and diverse group of early relics with some outstanding individual recoveries. Aside from that awesome button, I really like that crude pewter spoon. From your pic it almost appears that the bowl and stem were cast separately and joined together after-the-fact - very unusual if that's the case. That buckle, ring and huge croatal bell are also nice finds. And that large round brass item with the perforations is a strainer, and I've found a number of these over the years at colonial sites. Again, excellent outing, and hope you can get a positive and specific ID on that button.
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    really cool find! congratulations!
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