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  1. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2coins View Post
    Scotty my Brother thats freakin sick bro we gotta hook up soon Ive been so freakin busy. Wow thats really cool gotta text me some picks of your other Spanish treasure my friend.....Tommy sweet silver taco gotta find that golden burrito next lol
    unlike A2coins, I think it's pretty Cool , Even in that "Hammered" Condition ! Congrats !

    a2_ just messin ! because imo sick is one of the worst words in the english language for that Meaning to be used.
    personally I'd like to slap whoever sent that in to urban Dictionary & Slap them for printing it

    I imagine if I tell them Car means Door they will print it.
    Last edited by jeff of pa; Apr 04, 2021 at 07:18 AM.

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    Looks awesome, whatever it is! If I were you I'd put on a sniper coil and go back to find those missing chunks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    The mintmark looks like a Rose which would make it Henry VII 1504-09. But we need to see the letters better on the inside folded bit:

    All I can see is [] DI GRA REX [] - I need to see what's before the DI?

    What diameter is it?
    Thanks Cru, appreciate you jumping in and helping... I’m going to try to get more letters off of it today maybe post more pics since it does appear to be legit hammered silver. I’ll try my best to get a decent measurement. Thx again, Ddf.
    Last edited by Treasure_Hunter; Apr 06, 2021 at 07:56 PM.

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    It's an incredibly amazing find, regardless of the exact Id- Huge Congrats!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    The mintmark looks like a Rose which would make it Henry VII 1504-09. But we need to see the letters better on the inside folded bit:

    All I can see is [] DI GRA REX [] - I need to see what's before the DI?

    What diameter is it?
    Cru, I cannot (safely) see what is after DI GRA REX... at least for now. But the exact diameter was hard to zero in on, but is 19.75-19.85 mm. Thanks very much for the assistance. Ddf.

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    Congratulations! Makes the hair on my neck stand up. Can't imagine how you felt.
    Might need pro help with heat to flatten it. Check with your local university or even a smith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene Mean View Post
    Congratulations! Makes the hair on my neck stand up. Can't imagine how you felt.
    Might need pro help with heat to flatten it. Check with your local university or even a smith.
    Thx Gene.... really didn’t sink in until this morning... hammered silver... in Ohio, go figure. I always try to imagine how/why a relic was dropped, how it got there, it’s travels. This is certainly a mystery. My friend Randy exclaimed it looked British when I dug it and he was right. Just didn’t realize until later just how old it was. Thx for looking, Ddf.

  8. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdigginfool View Post
    Cru, I cannot (safely) see what is after DI GRA REX... at least for now. But the exact diameter was hard to zero in on, but is 19.75-19.85 mm. Thanks very much for the assistance. Ddf.
    OK, so assuming it's a Henry VII, it's size would indicate that it's denomination is a Halfgroat.

    If you can get more pictures of the inside of the taco, I can confirm my ID. At present, I'm 80% confident.
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  9. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Gene Mean View Post
    Congratulations! Makes the hair on my neck stand up. Can't imagine how you felt.
    Might need pro help with heat to flatten it. Check with your local university or even a smith.
    I've had coins straighten & I would not advice this one with the positioning of the cracks.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

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    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
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    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
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  10. #25
    Once we have established its true attribution, I recommend that you either ask the MODs to change the title or start a new thread along the lines of it's attribution & find-spot combined. It should then get the attention it deserves.
    I'm not here to explain it's loss, but I do know how to spot a fake post on here, & this is not one of them.
    Coins from any period of history can be lost at any future period of history after it's minting. Therefore, only a coin found in a sealed dateable context can date their true period of loss, so on this one, it's pure speculation 'when' it was lost.
    But all that matters is you dug it.
    Last edited by CRUSADER; Apr 04, 2021 at 05:14 PM.
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  11. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    I've had coins straighten & I would not advice this one with the positioning of the cracks.
    Yep. I should have finished with..."or they could ruin it".
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  12. #27
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    Hammered English silver....not in England....but in Ohio.......Wow......reallly Wow.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    Once we have established its true attribution, I recommend that you either ask the MODs to change the title or start a new thread along the lines of it's attribution & find-spot combined. It should then get the attention it deserves.
    I'm not here to explain it's loss, but I do know how to spot a fake post on here, & this is not one of them.
    Coins from any period of history can be lost at any future period of history after it's minting. Therefore, only a coin found in a sealed dateable context can date their true period of loss, so on this one, it's pure speculation 'when' it was lost.
    But all that matters is you dug it.
    Crusader, thank you very much for the help and support. I honestly did not realize the true significance of this find, and I threw up a quick post to try to get a positive i.d. I mean... hammered British silver... in Ohio?! But great advice, I will work on getting some better information from the inside of the fold. Thanks again. Cheers, Ddf.
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  14. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdigginfool View Post
    Crusader, thank you very much for the help and support. I honestly did not realize the true significance of this find, and I threw up a quick post to try to get a positive i.d. I mean... hammered British silver... in Ohio?! But great advice, I will work on getting some better information from the inside of the fold. Thanks again. Cheers, Ddf.
    All we need to see for a Positive ID is a 'C' or 'I' before the 'DI'. Either will confirm it's a Henry VII Halfgroat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    All we need to see for a Positive ID is a 'C' or 'I' before the 'DI'. Either will confirm it's a Henry VII Halfgroat.
    It’s hard to make out but isn’t that 2 Is before the DI on the part of the coin separated off with a crack either side? They have the ‘dog bone’ kind of shape you’d expect. I think the left hand crack goes through the middle of where the V was.

 

 
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