1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny(Site Pics Added)

Don in SJ

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My hunt today was going to be a 4 mile loop looking for a new homestead I suspect is there but once I got to my parking spot, I did not feel like a hiker today and went to Plan B, which was to walk down an old road about two blocks to where I got a KGII and KGIII copper back in 2001.

Back then I got those two coins on the road itself and would have loved to hunt the area adjoining the road, but it was severely overgrown with Green briars that you could not even walk through it, yet alone detect. I had quietly wished for a forest fire there and lo and behold, I got my wish. As I got the the area there was a fresh burn and right where I got the two coins was a nice three foot wide freshly dug fire ditch going thru the area.

I walked the ditch and it was full of very old disposed clam shells, a sure sign of an old homestead when in such numbers. But, after a half hour of looking, I found no definite site of habitation. No buttons, thimbles, or even iron objects, just some iron hits but nothing diggable. :(

As I was walking back to the road, sweeping the sides of the fire ditch with my XS, I got a nice copper reading in the side of the ditch. It quite did not sound like a copper coin and I was right, a bit disappointed but then when I saw that it was an almost complete knee buckle, I was rather happy then. They are not found that complete and in working order too often, so it was a great relic find for the day.

A few feet from where I dug the buckle I got a lower tone and lower reading on the Smart Screen of the XS, no way it could be a coin, wow, was I wrong.

When I first picked up the round disc I thought for sure it was a large diameter button. I looked for signs of a shank and then saw the design and lettering. :) As it dried out a bit, the bust of King George appeared, so I knew now I had a coin! With that I called it a morning and headed back to my truck.

I called my son Dan, who was at the airport waiting for his plane to arrive to go to Florida (LOL, he is missing the warm weather here) and as soon as I described the coin, he said "ROSA AMERICANA" He went on to say they are usually 1722 or 1723, he found one back in 1997, that was in rather bad shape.

The reason for the low tone and reading is that the Rosa Americana is only 75% copper and the rest is basically ZINC! Zinc never does well in the ground.

The Rosa Americana coins depict King George I on the obverse with the Tudor rose on the reverse.

So I only got a few items today but one great relic and a old coin that I had not previously found that type before, so a good hunt it was.

Don
 

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chrisplay2004

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

WOW! Good day to not feel like hiking..
Great find
 

Bavaria Mike

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Awesome finds Don! Buckle is nice, probably broken off the knee and that Rosa Americana is in great condition considering it has Zinc in it. A Zinc coin here in Germany hasn't got a chance, I find many from the late 1800s through the WWII era and if you can read a date when it come out of the ground, I am lucky as I will never see it again, LOL. HH, Mike
 

Baggins

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

WOW! Killer finds!
Baggins
 

Captn SE

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Very cool, unique, coin find you have there, Don!!

I think $5 gold coins ID around that area of the smart screen also!!

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan
 

mercenary

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

I usually bite my tongue on this one, but I gotta know...
WHERE IN SOUTH JERSEY DO YOU HUNT?
I'm getting frustrated over here!
Greats finds, as always.
 

Colonial Zoyboy

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Don, once again, you rock in a metal detecting sense. :D You are going to hit 20 coppas this year.

Kyle

P.S. Would you happen to know the VDI number of the coin?
 

LI Tom

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Wow ,super finds!That coin is in really good shape for being part zinc.
 

woj

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Took some pics from the sky yesterday Don.....although there were quite a few controlled burns going on yesterday all over SJ, I thought this one might have been your lucky burn?? Our state is quite small from 3000 feet.

A very nice find...you continue to give me hope that there are still good targets out there.

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Colonial KirkPA

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Don,

You are my hero! :-* :D ;D

What was the Very Dumb Indicator number? :P ;) :D

Keep the passion high!

Kirk
 

Ray in CA

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Don, that is a WONDERFUL coin! I doubt we will ever see something like that dug up here in Californeeyay. And though I'm not so much of a relic man, I can appreciate the cool buckle you found. I think you've located for yourself a sweet little spot there in Joisey. Keep 'em coming!

Ray
 

Southern_Boy

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Wow..way cool finds there and I loved the information on ROSA AMERICANA coin. I love how I can learn so much history from everyone at this site.
 

l.cutler

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Hey, that is not half bad for a Rosa! Most of the ones for sale on ebay look worse. Great find.
 

Pulltab Parson

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

The Best American Coin Find I have every seen for it's age and quality!

You are the man. ;)

HH

PTP
 

The Seeker

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Another nice find ..........Great job as always! HH
 

Gypsy Heart

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Re: 1722 ROSA AMERICANA Penny

Two beautiful finds! You were smart to keep searching after such a disappointing begining! The buckle is in wonderful shape and the coin...WOW
 

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