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    G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    I found this near an old school house (wooden, one room type).
    The flag has GOP on it. On the side of the elephant is the question: "IS THE G.O.P. DEAD?"
    and what looks like KIT below that. It's metal with no evidence on the back of ever having
    a pin attachment or anything (the back is flat). Any idea on the age?
    Bruce in Ct
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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    G.O.P is of course a nickname for the Republican political party.
    Thus the elephant.
    In the 1850's GOP stood for "Gallant Old Party" or "Grand Old Party".
    This may be a type of Republican token/pin.
    Could be from Hoover's campaign(s) or even Eisenhower's.
    Circa 1920's, 1930's or 1950's.
    I have seen several elephant pins with GOP from those time frames.

    http://www.drexelantiques.com/after6...ephantpina.jpg


    It's nice!

    PS: Are you sure that's "KIT" and not "NIT" or "WIT".

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Ct
    I found this near an old school house (wooden, one room type).
    The flag has GOP on it. On the side of the elephant is the question: "IS THE G.O.P. DEAD?"
    and what looks like KIT below that. It's metal with no evidence on the back of ever having
    a pin attachment or anything (the back is flat). Any idea on the age?
    Bruce in Ct
    Not quite sure which election that this piece goes to. It may be a 1932 item when FDR was first elected, and they kicked the Republicans out of office, but the bottom piece with the stamped word NIT has me stumped. That was a pretty common statement used on many campaign pieces back in the election of 1896 when Democrat William J. Bryan was running against Republican William McKinley. At the time we were on the gold standard for the backing of the country's currency, and Bryan and the Dems. wanted the currency backed by both gold and silver at the rate of 16 parts silver for one part gold. Many of the campaign pieces from that election are stamped N.I.T. (Not In Treasury). I'm not convinced that this piece is that old, as the donkey and the elephant weren't used that much in campaign advertising back then. Up until the mid 1920's, most ballots and campaign advertising used the old symbols for the parties. American Eagle for the Republicans, and the Rooster for the Dems. In some southerns states, those symbols still appear on the ballots. Whatever, it was a nice find.

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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?


    Might want to send a pix to this site....If it says is the gop dead, you may want to check democratic pins and stuff....

    http://www.instappraisal.com/

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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    I see this as a pro-GOP piece. The elephant and the flag look appealing and you would have to look closely to read the words so I don't think a democrat would use it b/c from afar it would appear as pro-GOP.

    I think the statement is sarcastic - "Is the GOP Dead? NIT" With "NIT" also carrying an association to the word "NO" as well as the silver/gold issue.

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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    Here's an example from 1896 where "NIT" has a "naa naa naa" meaning. I think it was a slang term at the time-


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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    I'm going that this is from the 1896 era. It is a very cool find If I had it I would try to track down a political memorabilia expert to get more info/value.

    Here are some other examples of the GOP elephant from that time period-










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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bramblefind
    I see this as a pro-GOP piece. The elephant and the flag look appealing and you would have to look closely to read the words so I don't think a democrat would use it b/c from afar it would appear as pro-GOP.

    I think the statement is sarcastic - "Is the GOP Dead? NIT" With "NIT" also carrying an association to the word "NO" as well as the silver/gold issue.
    Bramblefind is right on.

    NIT
    1896 slogan seen on McKinley and Bryan buttons. Collectors still debate its meaning. May mean "No," or may be an acronym for "Not In Trust"
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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    I'm Thinking along your lines Bramblefind. I had guestimated the age as being at least pre-1920's.
    Thanks to all for the responses. If anyone can nail it down I'd appreciate it.
    (by the way, KIT was a typo on my part -it IS NIT)
    Bruce in Ct

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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    NIT was a popular saying for DEMs, as in nitwits.
    It also has been noted using "nit" as a word for insignificant/cance.
    Seems fitting, asking if the GOP is dead, then NIT.

    Here is a GOP elephant pin from the 1960's.
    http://www.icollect247.com/itempage.php?uniqueid=21424

    Hoover Campaign pin - seems to be same medals (?)
    http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...n-gop-elephant

    I'm still thinking 1920's-1950's.

    But here is some interesting newspaper reading from 1872.
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...7030%2C6472762
    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bramblefind
    I'm going that this is from the 1896 era. It is a very cool find If I had it I would try to track down a political memorabilia expert to get more info/value.
    Im going with Bramblefind. 1890's.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: G.O.P. elephant item - how old?

    anything on the back?
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