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  1. #1
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    Hallmark Help ?

    I went detecting near the muddy mile today and "eyeballed" this ring on the edge of a freshly tilled field.
    I almost didn't believe it but it was in my hand. Any help on the marks appreciated.
    Correct me if I'm wrong I see 0B three crowns and a T
    Thanks, Broken Knee
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  2. #2
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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    This is close- from 1922. Your mark might be a more modern example? Nice find!




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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    You may wish to communicate with this person who is wearing a similar ring:
    http://www.antique-jewelry-investor....ee-crowns.html

    I agree with bramblefind:
    Ostby and Barton. BTW, Ostby went down on the Titanic; his company became the largest manufacturer of rings in the US. Here's some history:
    http://www.vintage-rings.org/vintage...signers-4.html

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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    Thanks, Bramblefind and Mackaydon for the info. That was a very interesting story about Ostby.
    I'm wondering if the letter is a date mark? the link Mackaydon gave shows a C in the mark not a T.
    Any way thanks once again, Broken Knee

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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    You may wish to call this company in Phoenix; they have an 'OB' ring for sale and may have additional information on the marks:
    Goodwill of Central Arizona, 15633 S 32nd St., Phoenix, has a very special vintage ring made by Ostby and Barton for sale. Ostby and Barton were designers of genuine, high quality pieces. The founder of Ostby and Barton was actually traveling with a bag of gems for his jewelry designs aboard the Titanic in 1912. He perished on... that trip, but his daughter survived. Much of the jewelry is yet to be discovered. It is made of 14k Gold and is adorned with what appears to be red ruby stones. Internet research indicates that the ring's "OB14K" stamp is the mark of the Ostby & Barton Co. Please call the Store Manager for pricing and more information at (480) 704-0645.
    Don....

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    Re: Hallmark Help ?



    The triple crown mark has been used as the Swedish Government mark since 1783 - after 1912 the triple crown was enclosed in a clover leaf shape(or Cats Paw) for Swedish made items and in an oval shape for an Import item. If the crowns are not enclosed the item was produced before 1912. Swedish silver is typically .830 pure, or a lower purity of silver than Sterling which is .925 pure.

    I think the letter T is for the year 1861 :P

    SS
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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    The triple crown mark has been used as the Swedish Government mark since 1783 - after 1912 the triple crown was enclosed in a clover leaf shape(or Cats Paw) for Swedish made items and in an oval shape for an Import item. If the crowns are not enclosed the item was produced before 1912. Swedish silver is typically .830 pure, or a lower purity of silver than Sterling which is .925 pure.

    I think the letter T is for the year 1861 :P

    SS
    All the Swedish hallmarks I've seen are 2 crowns over 1. Also, the Swedish date code for 1861 is "G5".

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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    Quote Originally Posted by daroofa
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    The triple crown mark has been used as the Swedish Government mark since 1783 - after 1912 the triple crown was enclosed in a clover leaf shape(or Cats Paw) for Swedish made items and in an oval shape for an Import item. If the crowns are not enclosed the item was produced before 1912. Swedish silver is typically .830 pure, or a lower purity of silver than Sterling which is .925 pure.

    I think the letter T is for the year 1861 :P

    SS
    All the Swedish hallmarks I've seen are 2 crowns over 1. Also, the Swedish date code for 1861 is "G5".
    Like I said above, the shape of the Crowns changed after 1912, perhaps the ring posted is before that time

    SS
    Don't piss down my back, then tell me it's raining.

  9. #9
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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
    Quote Originally Posted by daroofa
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    The triple crown mark has been used as the Swedish Government mark since 1783 - after 1912 the triple crown was enclosed in a clover leaf shape(or Cats Paw) for Swedish made items and in an oval shape for an Import item. If the crowns are not enclosed the item was produced before 1912. Swedish silver is typically .830 pure, or a lower purity of silver than Sterling which is .925 pure.

    I think the letter T is for the year 1861 :P

    SS
    All the Swedish hallmarks I've seen are 2 crowns over 1. Also, the Swedish date code for 1861 is "G5".
    Like I said above, the shape of the Crowns changed after 1912, perhaps the ring posted is before that time

    SS
    Sweden did use a "T" as a date mark in 1777, but that would pre-date the use of the crowns so... I think the Ostby & Barton ID is correct, but can't find any reference to their date mark system.

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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    Several of the eBay sellers of OB rings state the company was established in 1879 and faded out in about 1950.

  11. #11
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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    The triple crown mark has been used as the Swedish Government mark since 1783 - after 1912 the triple crown was enclosed in a clover leaf shape(or Cats Paw) for Swedish made items and in an oval shape for an Import item. If the crowns are not enclosed the item was produced before 1912. Swedish silver is typically .830 pure, or a lower purity of silver than Sterling which is .925 pure.
    SS the ring is gold

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    Re: Hallmark Help ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Broken knee
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    The triple crown mark has been used as the Swedish Government mark since 1783 - after 1912 the triple crown was enclosed in a clover leaf shape(or Cats Paw) for Swedish made items and in an oval shape for an Import item. If the crowns are not enclosed the item was produced before 1912. Swedish silver is typically .830 pure, or a lower purity of silver than Sterling which is .925 pure.
    SS the ring is gold
    Ahhh Right looking closer at your picture I can see now, I will have another go at it now

    SS
    Don't piss down my back, then tell me it's raining.

 

 

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