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  1. #1

    Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Hi, I found this bullet on a field here in southern Denmark.
    It is 6 cm long and has a diameter of aprox. 1.3 cm.

    I think it might be a cal.50 from an airplane machine gun. It could be WWII ?
    The English and Americans had some air fights with the Germans in this area during the WWII.
    Can it be confirmed, that it is that old?

    Any information would help me.
    Thanks


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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    that looks like a 50 cal, I think the black tip means it is an amour piercing round. Dean

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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by boondocker
    that looks like a 50 cal, I think the black tip means it is an amour piercing round. Dean

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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by boondocker
    that looks like a 50 cal, I think the black tip means it is an amour piercing round. Dean
    Black tip Yep
    here's one I found blue tip incendiary round 1943 BMG stamped on the bottom.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG
    Take Care,
    Pete,
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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Thank you guys.
    Is there any risk that it might contain "bad stuff" ?
    Is it produced in the USA ?
    Can it be confirmed that it is from the WW2 or can it be younger ?


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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDane
    Thank you guys.
    Is there any risk that it might contain "bad stuff" ?
    Is it produced in the USA ?
    Can it be confirmed that it is from the WW2 or can it be younger ?


    It contains lead, known to the state of Kalifornia to cause global warming and all sorts of bad stuff. .50 BMG.

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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDane
    Thank you guys.
    Is there any risk that it might contain "bad stuff" ?
    Is it produced in the USA ?
    Can it be confirmed that it is from the WW2 or can it be younger ?

    Nothing bad left to that!
    Date from it it self
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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDane
    Thank you guys.
    Is there any risk that it might contain "bad stuff" ?
    Is it produced in the USA ?
    Can it be confirmed that it is from the WW2 or can it be younger ?

    50 cal. BMG was developed around 1910, entered service in 1921, and is still used today. There is no way you're going to narrow it down any closer than that, 1921-present. And yes, black tip is armor piercing.

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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Thank you very much, Eddie and TK.

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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Here's a color chart for future finds of .50 BMG projectiles or cartridges.


    TiredIron
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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Thank you, TiredIron

    I think the "Tracer" looks very much like the Black one ??

    I do not know the meaning of all the english words next to the shells?
    Could you please list up for me, which of them are undangerous, and which are dangerous ??

    Thank you !

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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Dane,
    "EVERYTHING that was designed to shoot-blow up-explode-ingnite-illuminate-burn-mame/kill,
    is extremely dangerous in it's original intended form. Once expended..."some things" become
    inert...or pose no further threat. Some things fail and can wait indefinately to harm someone later."

    As others have already stated "yours" is definitely an "M2 Armor Piercing Round". It has a tapered waist and the M17 Tracer has a straight waist below the double canalure. IT IS UN-DANGEROUS.
    As far as your question about danger of the individual projectiles, I'll try and explain, starting from left....to right.

    #1. The Spotter Round Cartridges are actually made up by us and never existed in factory produced
    ammunition. The projectiles were pulled from the M48 Spotter Cartridge used to assist in
    targeting of the larger 106MM & 105MM Recoilless and Howitzer Artillery weapons. This
    projectile Traces-Smokes-and Explodes on impact creating a large flash, then it lays there and
    burns. This is the most dangerous projectile of the eight examples shown here as it has encased
    in its nose a sensitive primer. This cartridge can be detonated by simply dropping it on a hard
    surface like concrete. The odds of finding one of these laying around would be very slim, but
    possible. I will include a cut-away picture of this projectile at the bottom of this post.

    #2. The M1 Incendiary was primarily used on thin skinned flammable targets and was mostly fired
    from aircraft and during training exercises to help gunners see where they were hitting. The
    hollow nose of this projectile has ample amount of a proprietary compound the Government
    refers to as "IM11". It requires a velocity in excess of that which you could achieve by just
    dropping it on a hard surface. When it does detonate it creates a large flash, and does not have
    a hardened steel penetrator.

    #3. The M17 Tracer projectile becomes visable (RED) approximately 100yds from the fired weapon
    and traces red for in excess of 1800 yrds. It is hollow with lead in the nose and the tracing
    compound in the rear, and has no steel penetrator. These were normally linked up 1 to 4 with
    the M33 Ball and M2 AP cartridges for the Ground Weapons. This one poses no danger to being
    dropped.

    #4. The M20 projectile were used in a lot of the Aircraft during WWII. It Traces, flashes on impact,
    and has a hardened steel penetrator that will defeat light/medium armor. This round like the
    Blue & Silver Tip would need velocity much greater than achieved by dropping for detonation.

    #5. The M8 Silver Tip is Armor Piercing Incendiary it flashes on impact and has a hardened steel
    penetrator that will defeat medium armor. More IM11 compound in the nose that "shouldn't"
    detonate if dropped.

    #6. The M2 Armor piercing round has no reactive compounds, just a hardened steel penetrator, no
    risk at all dropping on hard surface. Punches through medium armor with ease.
    "THIS IS WHAT YOU FOUND."

    #7. The M33 Ball round is just Full Metal Jacket, lead core, no reactive compounds, no penetrator.
    No drop risk.

    #8. The MK11 mod 0 is the latest and greatest round developed for the browning M2 and
    M82A1 Rifle. It has an explosive impact that assists in driving a hardened steel penetrator. I have
    not performed any drop tests with this round, but I have read that it takes the usual velocity
    like the M1-M20-M8 type projectiles. These round are fairly new and rare, as well as expensive.


    EVERYTHING I have stated has been based on dropping the cartridge/projectile on its tip/nose.
    Every loaded cartridge is dangerous and has a sensitive primer on its base that can easily be
    detonated if dropped. Every cartridge from a 17/22cal on up can be lethal including blanks.

    I hope I maybe answered your question. Your found example poses no danger, enjoy it. Due to the
    patina and surface corrosion....I would agree and say its probably from World War II.

    Adios
    TiredIron

    "NOW THIS EXAMPLE IS A BADBOY".....this one you don't drop, don't ask me how I know.
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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Wow, thank you very much for the fine explaination !!

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    Re: Machine Gun Bullet .50 ?

    Yep, .50 cal. I used to live near a "dry" lake in Az. Would go wander out there all the time and found MANY fired .50 bullits. Was apparenty used as a gunnery range around WW11.

 

 

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