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  1. #1
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    Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Have no clue what "Well Gate" means, looks like someone hammer stamped it in.
    Or what the coin itself is?
    Thanks
    Z
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    My guess would be it's a key fob to the Wall Gate key. Go back and find the key.

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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    The coin is a George the 3rd halfpenny I think. I believe it was stamped and used as a key fob for the key that was used to open the lock at the gate to the well? That's all I got.
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Thanks for the great ideas, wonder if its worth anything?
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Quote Originally Posted by calisdad
    My guess would be it's a key fob to the Wall Gate key. Go back and find the key.
    I vote for "wall" as well. Wouldn't finding the key to match be awesome!!!
    Don't have a clue as to its "worth" other than it's a very neat piece of history to hold in your hand! Love how people re-purposed coins!
    Tigger

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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?



    That's pretty cool, and does look like single crude punches opposed to a stamp, so does fit with the ID given. And then the hole I think probably seals it. I could see someone paying $30 or $40 for it, but probably not much more.
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Quote Originally Posted by calisdad
    My guess would be it's a key fob to the Wall Gate key. Go back and find the key.
    Okay, now I see the "A". Wall Gate it is.
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Agree with the homemade Key tag. Could very well be "WELL GATE". The A in gate came out nice, so I'm thinking they didn't have an "E" punch, thus they used 2 different letters on top of each other to make it, and it didn't come out very good. Both attempts look slightly different, they may have tried different punches with each one, but my vote is for an "E".

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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    I'm for WELL also as you look at both E's they have been restamped both look similar.

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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    I would settle on WALL GATE, maybe
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    I would settle on WALL GATE, maybe
    We if you put it that way I'd say "Well Gate" but I don't know what that is. It just looks like the 'E' in 'GATE' is stamped upside down is 'WELL'.

    (actually an 'F' 'L' combination.)

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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Regardless of whether it's a WELL or WALL Gate key fob, its value is the place it occupies in your future memory box of things you found.
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Looking at the enhanced photo from Don in SJ, it looks as if whomever stamped it used the letter F (forward and backwards) to make the "A" in Wall. Also looks as if they used the F to make the "E" in Gate.

    Can I have a vowel please Pat?
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    ~ Just for the record ~

    Check out George III here ~ Scroll to 1774 ~ http://copperclem.com/BritishGIII.htm
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Quote Originally Posted by SODABOTTLEBOB

    ~ Just for the record ~

    Check out George III here ~ Scroll to 1774 ~ http://copperclem.com/BritishGIII.htm
    Close but not the same type.
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    P.S. ~

    ~ Crystal Ball Opinion / Seering Into The Past ~

    As a supporter of "Occam's Razor" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor , suggesting that the simplest explanation is often the correct explanation, I offer the following observations ...

    1. I'm for "WELL" ... If "WALL" why not use the same "A" as that in "GATE" ?
    2. General logic suggest there is no such thing as a "Well Gate." At least I have never
    heard of someone having a "locked gate" to their well.
    3. Thus, it is my Occam's Razor opinion that "Wellgate" (one word) is worth
    investigating. Perhaps a "fob" for a key to a property back in the old country
    in "Wellgate, Scotland." After all, isn't the coin of Brittish origin?

    SBB

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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Some people would have put a grate or "gate" over a low walled well...to stop kids falling in etc. "Well" in my opinion.
           

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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dano Sverige
    Some people would have put a grate or "gate" over a low walled well...to stop kids falling in etc. "Well" in my opinion.
    Good observation! But I can't help but wonder if they would actually call a cover or lid a gate? Why not just stamp the word "WELL" on the coin and be done with it? Its the word "GATE" that's confusing me.
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    Re: Anyone want to give this one a shot? 1774 "Well Gate" ..?

    Here is a public well from 1748 that might have required the need for the key. I know of a public well that use to be in my hometown that had a iron fence around it with a gate at the corner of the church property.

    Bill
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