Post By ffuries
Post By ww1czechlegion
May 24, 2012, 04:12 PM
May 24, 2012 04:12 PM
May 24, 2012, 07:37 PM
Some one could have had it as a souvenir from WWI. Who knows how things end up where they do. I once found a 1950's lipstick tube in the same hole as a Civil War 3-ring Minie bullet. Super neat find, Breezie
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May 24, 2012, 07:52 PM
I doubt its a replica. Who knows how things get where.
May 24, 2012, 08:11 PM
Its also obviously not the badge you posted but it may be the "Star of the Black Eagle". According to Wikipedia, as well as several other websites, the Order of the Black Eagle is the "highest order of chivalry awarded in the kingdom of Prussia." The order became obsolete with the abdictation of Kaiser Wilhelm II, the last Prussian king, in 1918.
World War II Memorabilia - 1889 Prussian Sword
May 24, 2012, 08:21 PM
May 24, 2012, 08:27 PM
The Wehrmacht Awards Forum should be able to help but you may need to be a member. Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums - Powered by vBulletin
May 25, 2012, 08:02 AM
Thanks for the replies, its just mind boggling that something like that would end up where I am. Ill try to see if its authentic, that would be really cool, especially since all the other stuff Ive found are clad coins and roof tacks.
May 25, 2012, 10:33 AM
I dont understand those back pieces that appear weaved together. Are those bendable tabs? It doesnt look like something easily replicated.
May 25, 2012, 02:31 PM
Yeah those are bendable tabs. Maybe they somehow attached the badge to the star?
Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter
ALso not sure why coloring is different, but I think found an example with the red coloring on google images.
May 25, 2012, 03:20 PM
Im sure The Wehrmacht Awards Forum can help. We have a member ffluries that maybe can help.
May 25, 2012, 03:29 PM
May 25, 2012, 04:24 PM
Gonna post this on the other site and see what we can find out!
Added: Here's the link to posting on the Wehrmacht-Awards site.
Last edited by ffuries; May 25, 2012 at 04:33 PM.
TSgt, USAF Retired
May 26, 2012, 09:26 AM
I'm a WW1 collector, and a member of the wehrmacht-awards.com forum.
The item you found in the ground is actually the center part off a star that was on a spiked helmet frontplate worn on a Guard Regiment pickelhaube. Whatever happened to the eagle frontplate, and the star that this was attached to on the center of the eagle's chest, or even the leather body helmet shell, is unknown.
I have two personal friends with ancestors that destroyed or disposed of the German helmets & uniforms which they brought with them to the USA.
One friend's ancestor destroyed a Garde du Corps helmet. The helmet & uniform were burned after the ancestor showed up in town wearing it when the U.S. announced it was entering WW1.
The other friend's ancestor destroyed a Kurassier helmet. The grandmother threw it in the ravine of a creek, which was the family trash dump, along with the uniform.
It's quite possible that someone's ancestor threw out or buried an old German pickelhaube to get rid of the traces of their German ancestry/military involvement. Thus your finding these remains from a spike helmet in your yard. Like a lot of stuff that members on here find in the buried in the ground, only God knows how it got there...
All the Best,
Last edited by ww1czechlegion; May 26, 2012 at 09:29 AM.
May 26, 2012, 11:04 AM
Thank you for taking time to answer my post on Wehrmacht-Awards, and for joining here to answer the question. Stick around there are some interesting things that get dug up that people are looking for answers to.
May 27, 2012, 10:53 AM
Thanks ffuries, czechclegion, and bigcypress! I really appreciate the help and input!
May 27, 2012, 10:57 AM
Thanks for the info, so you would date this around WW1 era? Was this a common badge to have on the helmet, or was it an award that had to earned? How rare is it? Is it worth trying to clean or restore?
Originally Posted by ww1czechlegion
Ill try searching the same area for the other parts.
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