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  1. #1
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    I regret that I have but one life to dig...

    Oct 2010
    Wyoming
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    three Fort items

    Hey all. Found these items near a Fort.

    One is a bullet measuring .58. I have never seen this one before.

    The other is a Rosette, I believe, but not military?

    The third item is very strange. It is brass and appears to have saw marks cut into it vertically. The landowner suggested it might be a part of a powder scale?

    Thanks for looking. HH
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    Dec 2008
    Ohio
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    That is part of a shot flask.
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  3. #3
    us
    Dec 2007
    Chattanooga, TN
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    Your bullet is called a williams cleaner bullet. That is a zink base that would be pushed into the bottom of the bullet and force a thin brase skirt to come out and clean the barrel of the gun.

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    Feb 2006
    Occupied CSA (Richmond VA)
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    Your guess is correct, the large disc is a civilian rosette from a horse-harness.

    Taz420 is of course correct, a Shot Flask top.

    Duggap is also correct, it is a civil war era Williams Type 3 "Bore-cleaner" bullet (which was manufactured only by the yankees). The flat disc on its base was made of "hardened-lead." The disc held a thin zinc saucer-shaped washer onto the main lead bullet's base. When the "Bore-cleaner" bullet was fired, the base-disc compressed the saucer-shaped washer outward into the gunbarrel's rifling grooves, scraping out the burned gunpowder ash.

    The shallow groove encircing the top of your Wlliams Type 3 bullet was not there when the bullet was manufactured. That groove was made by the rifle's ramrod or a double-helix bulletworm.

  5. #5
    us
    I regret that I have but one life to dig...

    Oct 2010
    Wyoming
    Whites Spectra V3I Garrett Pro Pointer Minelab Etrac
    239
    34 times
    Relic Hunting
    Wow thanks for the invaluable info guys! This site never seems to run dry and never disappoints. I find lots of Springfield and Henry rounds along with a few others but have never came across this Williams. Thanks to Tax420, duggap and Cannonball Guy for the great ID's. I will mark this one solved.

 

 

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