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  1. #1
    us
    I regret that I have but one life to dig...

    Oct 2010
    Wyoming
    Whites Spectra V3I Garrett Pro Pointer
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    Relic Hunting

    three Fort items

    Hey all. Found these items near a Fort.

    One is a bullet measuring .58. I have never seen this one before.

    The other is a Rosette, I believe, but not military?

    The third item is very strange. It is brass and appears to have saw marks cut into it vertically. The landowner suggested it might be a part of a powder scale?

    Thanks for looking. HH
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  3. #2
    us
    Dec 2008
    Ohio
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    That is part of a shot flask.
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  4. #3
    us
    Dec 2007
    Chattanooga, TN
    Tosoro Bandido
    754
    77 times
    Metal Detecting
    Your bullet is called a williams cleaner bullet. That is a zink base that would be pushed into the bottom of the bullet and force a thin brase skirt to come out and clean the barrel of the gun.

  5. #4
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    Feb 2006
    Occupied CSA (Richmond VA)
    White's 6000, Nautilus DMC-1, Minelab
    2,249
    1045 times
    Relic Hunting
    Your guess is correct, the large disc is a civilian rosette from a horse-harness.

    Taz420 is of course correct, a Shot Flask top.

    Duggap is also correct, it is a civil war era Williams Type 3 "Bore-cleaner" bullet (which was manufactured only by the yankees). The flat disc on its base was made of "hardened-lead." The disc held a thin zinc saucer-shaped washer onto the main lead bullet's base. When the "Bore-cleaner" bullet was fired, the base-disc compressed the saucer-shaped washer outward into the gunbarrel's rifling grooves, scraping out the burned gunpowder ash.

    The shallow groove encircing the top of your Wlliams Type 3 bullet was not there when the bullet was manufactured. That groove was made by the rifle's ramrod or a double-helix bulletworm.

  6. #5
    us
    I regret that I have but one life to dig...

    Oct 2010
    Wyoming
    Whites Spectra V3I Garrett Pro Pointer
    188
    4 times
    Relic Hunting
    Wow thanks for the invaluable info guys! This site never seems to run dry and never disappoints. I find lots of Springfield and Henry rounds along with a few others but have never came across this Williams. Thanks to Tax420, duggap and Cannonball Guy for the great ID's. I will mark this one solved.

 

 

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