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  1. #21
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    the back is the same as the front. the side that you see is the better of the two.. thanks for all the info..

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  3. #22
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    OK Im out.

    The attachment is very unusual and the more pics the easier it is to visualize this thing. It almost looks like a loop soldered on to one side of a medallion. Or maybe its soldered on both sides. Or maybe its cast all in one piece. I guess we will never know. You may be right but members are often surprised what we can obtain from additional pics very often something can be seen in a pic that cannot be seen in hand. I thought we were making progress but could use a little more help. I shouldnt have to explain all this. PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING ITEMS IN "WHAT IS IT?"
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Jul 03, 2012 at 07:53 PM.

  4. #23
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    How about a watch fob from a secret fraternal organization - like the Sphinx at Dartmouth which started in 1886?

    Without knowledge of exactly what the letters at the bottom are, I've done all I can.

    DCMatt
    While I have aimed in my postings to be irenic and conciliatory, rather than polemic, I have yet endeavored to set forth the
    truth, let it favor or impugn whom it might. Any notice of misrepresentations or mistakes occurring in these prose will be most thankfully received
    by the author.

  5. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post
    How about a watch fob from a secret fraternal organization - like the Sphinx at Dartmouth which started in 1886?

    Without knowledge of exactly what the letters at the bottom are, I've done all I can.

    DCMatt
    Is there a French connection?

    Without more pics, front back and from different angles, I have done all I can do. Its a shame because I thought we were making progress and I wanted to learn about this interesting piece..
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Jul 05, 2012 at 12:37 PM.

  6. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter View Post
    Is there a French connection?

    Without more pics, front back and from different angles, I have done all I can do. Its a shame because I thought we were making progress and I wanted to learn about this interesting piece..
    No French connection that I know of. But "du jour" has been part of the English vernacular for at least the last 100 years, so I was discounting the French connection.

    It is an interesting piece. Wish we could get some additional input from the OP.

    DCMatt
    While I have aimed in my postings to be irenic and conciliatory, rather than polemic, I have yet endeavored to set forth the
    truth, let it favor or impugn whom it might. Any notice of misrepresentations or mistakes occurring in these prose will be most thankfully received
    by the author.

  7. #26
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    Sometimes we need a little help..

    At this point I think its safe to say its not related to the workers at the Harvesting Machine Co. in Chicago.

    CLUES

    1- 2 dates (one is 1886)

    2- Sphinx, sarcophagus or Arab

    3- French words

    4- the answer is a question

    5- initials on bottom

    6- size and composition unknown

    7- holes with unknown purpose.

    8- probably found in PA.

    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Jul 05, 2012 at 03:46 PM. Reason: editted no 3

  8. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post
    No French connection that I know of. But "du jour" has been part of the English vernacular for at least the last 100 years, so I was discounting the French connection.
    DCMatt
    I thought about this Matt and on a hunch I looked for the French translation for QUESTION and guess what? Its a French word also. Google Translate

    The entire medal may be French.
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Jul 05, 2012 at 03:49 PM.

  9. #28
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    new pic for size..

  10. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by texjim View Post
    new pic for size..
    Welcome back. I think we are making good progress and this one is solvable. What do you all think about the entire medallion thing being French?

  11. #30
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    I am lost with this one. I don't know what else to do or google I should say. For some reason i don't get the emails that somebody replied anymore that is why it took so long to get back to everyone. Thanks Jim

  12. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by texjim View Post
    I am lost with this one. I don't know what else to do or google I should say. For some reason i don't get the emails that somebody replied anymore that is why it took so long to get back to everyone. Thanks Jim
    Dont worry Jim but I will try to explain.

    If you really want to see this item solved, you need to post pictures of both front and back and side would be cool too. I dont care if both sides are the same. We are requesting front AND back. Its standard procedure. I am not picking on you. Also something for size would help. Also the compostion. Is it brass or pot metal? Where did you find it?

    We are trying to read the words and there may be one single letter that reveals itself by showing the backside. Or a pic from a different angle or different lighting. To keep it simple we need pic of front and back please thank you. The pic in your last relpy didnt post.

    Additional pics may or may not help but let us be the one to make the decision. If you want the thread to die, dont post anymore pics. Thanks.

    I posted instructions before. I dont know whats hard to understand. PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING ITEMS IN "WHAT IS IT?"
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Jul 08, 2012 at 03:30 PM.

  13. #32
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    BC_Hunter it appears to me, he put the new pic for size, in his first post

  14. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff of pa View Post
    BC_Hunter it appears to me, he put the new pic for size, in his first post
    I wonder if its the same side. Well anyway do you think it looks like brass or pot metal?
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Jul 08, 2012 at 04:22 PM.

  15. #34
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    Yes it's the same side. See position of holes.

    I Havn't handled it so Unfortunately don't know on metal content.

    Jim ya gotta Give us a Rear view, even if it's Environmentally almost gone
    Last edited by jeff of pa; Jul 08, 2012 at 04:33 PM.

  16. #35
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    The color green usually signifies brass but it almost looks like torquise paint on the low spots.

  17. #36
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    it might take me a day or two to get the pic of the other side so please be patient. i will post the pics onto the first post so they will all be together....thanks again for everyone's time..

  18. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by texjim View Post
    it might take me a day or two to get the pic of the other side so please be patient. i will post the pics onto the first post so they will all be together....thanks again for everyone's time..
    I think we can solve this item if you keep the members interested. Can you tell if its brass or pot metal? Was it painted?

  19. #38
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    I posted a pic of the back side on the first post. i didn't think i had one on my sd card but i did.

  20. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by texjim View Post
    I posted a pic of the back side on the first post. i didn't think i had one on my sd card but i did.
    Thanks. That side may actually be better. Ill work on it later. I wonder if careful cleaning would help? I swear the guy has a turbin. It may be a majic token. They are collectable.
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Jul 08, 2012 at 09:18 PM.

  21. #40
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    Im pretty sure we have a different face on this side. You have just supplied us a clue. Still waiting on the composition. I gotta go but this should renew interest.
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