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    " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    HI all, I found this brass star this afternoon, i,m not quite sure what the relic is.The item is about the same size as a standing lib [us] and is press brass.It is quite thick for a pressed item and has a bit of weight for its size. The edges are quite sharp and so are the points.I known its not a saddle decoration.Opinions please.

                              t.p "Or a crazy ninja's weapon " lol
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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    For a first WAG - it may originate from a fire service as the 8 pointed star can be traced back to the UK National Fire Brigades Association in 1887. Apparently the eight points are believed to represent the virtues of tact, perseverance, gallantry, loyalty, dexterity, explicitness, observation and sympathy - virtues held by firefighters.

    It apparently originated from the eight pointed cross of St John (the maltese cross).

    Or it could be not related at all......

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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    My WAG is spur... nothing else makes sense if it's pointy and sharp with a big hole in the middle...

    I can't see hanging a dangerous badge on your uniform, or carrying it in your pocket

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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    For now I'm hanging on to MONTANA JIM'S Coattails and will agree as being a Spur Wheel

    While searching I found that many spurs have the 8 point spikes.

    Found one that has the 3D star.

    Only thing I can't figure out on the one posted by TINPAN has no wear around the hole, and I would think that it should since it would spin.

    Unless the cowboy lost it on his first day of wearing them. In which case we need look for a pissedoff cowboy on a horse running in circles.
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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Are both sides alike?
    DG
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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Quote Originally Posted by dg39
    Are both sides alike?
    DG
    Yikes! Good question!

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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    If on only one side it could be a decorative finial for a ceiling fixture or tile or a number of other things.
    DG
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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    hows about a photo of the edge and back please?
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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Definitely not a spur, Spurs use the tips to prod the animal not injure them as this defice would definitely do. I'm thinking of a tool my Gamma used to use for cutting the extra pie doe off the edges of a pie leaving a dimpled effect. But the that's just my opinion and I offer it free of charge.
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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Ok...here's a link on Spurs....>>>> http://www.oldspurs.com/index.htm (and this one) >>>> http://www.cowboygear.com/spurs.html

    Here's a link to Pastry Cutters....>>>> http://www.fantes.com/pasta_cutters.htm (and this one) >>>>
    http://www.bakedeco.com/static/list/...try-wheels.htm

    Hope these links help some....

    Good Luck!
    HH, Annmarie
    Illustrator Draftsman Second Class, Enlisted Surface Warfare, U.S. Navy (Retired), Mom of 3, Troop 65 Committee Member, Genealogist 35+ yrs

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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Good links Ron and Ann, Did you notice that the spurs all have points but not have bladelike edges between the Points while the pastry and pasta cutters do ? Although these are all relatively new pasta and pastry cutters I think their design has probably not changed much from Gammas day.
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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Quote Originally Posted by WNYHobo
    Good links Ron and Ann, Did you notice that the spurs all have points but not have bladelike edges between the Points while the pastry and pasta cutters do ? Although these are all relatively new pasta and pastry cutters I think their design has probably not changed much from Gammas day.
    I noticed that, that is why I posted both for spurs and pastry cutters....even though there were two spurs (gallery 5 and can't remember the other gallery of photos # from the first spur link) that kinda looked like what they posted...

    but I have to go with a pastry cutter myself! No, pastry cutters are still pretty much the same as when my grandma used them too!

    HH, Annmarie
    Illustrator Draftsman Second Class, Enlisted Surface Warfare, U.S. Navy (Retired), Mom of 3, Troop 65 Committee Member, Genealogist 35+ yrs

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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Saddle or harness decoration would be a good bet too...
    All the worlds a stage, and the tickets are damned expensive....

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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Hi all by request, reverse side.This star is pressed brass and is way too thick to be a saddle or harness decoration.The pic shows the points of the star are bent down -wards so a pastery -cutter not.The item id on sided and has a beveled line in it to make a little ornate.

    t.p

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    Re: " brass star or spur or badge or pin or ???????"

    Just to take this thread in a different direction... I like what Harry said. The eight points may be significant.

    Spurs and dough cutters seem to have lots of points. Other badges and pins have 5 or 6 pointed stars.

    The star of The Order of the Garter has 8 points... Others?

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