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    Decorative Brass


    I was recently looking through my pile of 'finds that I just can't throw out yet', and realized I have no idea what this is?
    I found it years ago on a farm east of Toronto. It's made of brass and shows traces of either enamel or melted blue glass.

    Any thoughts regarding date and original use would be appreciated,
    Dave
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    I found a very similar one here in NY last year. It too had traces of enamel on the brass, but it had a broad loop on one side. I think it was determined to be a watch fob, but I can't find a photo of it. If I do I'll post it for comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paleomaxx View Post

    I found a very similar one here in NY last year. It too had traces of enamel on the brass, but it had a broad loop on one side. I think it was determined to be a watch fob, but I can't find a photo of it. If I do I'll post it for comparison.
    Thanks very much Max, I'd love to see what you found.
    Dave


    Here are a few more pics of... 'finds that I just can't throw out yet'!
    I have four more boxes of stuff just like these too.
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    Possibly from a chatelaine perfume/scent bottle. AKA vinaigrette.

    These were used throughout much of the 19th C. Blue glass was not uncommon.

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    It looks like there is a tapered seat screw hole in the center, which means it could well be an antique brass furniture applique of some sort.
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    Found it! Not exactly the same but pretty close in size, and style. You can see the loop I was talking about and it's just lightly brazed onto the back so it may have just broken off your example. The property I found mine at dates back to the 1830's, but I had a feeling that this was Victorian in age.

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    I got nothing...

    Sorry no help Anti.
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    It’s got sort of a lyre style to it...
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    What a nice piece, just look at that detail! The ornate features have a Victorian look to them. In addition to the center hole, there are 2 more behind the blue glass, perhaps to backlight. It may be broken off of a bigger piece, as at the bottom there are some sections that don't flow with the design there. At first I thought it could be part of a brooch/pin, but don't see where the pin was attached...
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    The dark spoon in the first picture of other finds looks like a fiddleback design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post

    Possibly from a chatelaine perfume/scent bottle. AKA vinaigrette.

    These were used throughout much of the 19th C. Blue glass was not uncommon.

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    Thanks very much for the pics Matt.
    It would be so coll if this was part of a vinaigrette.

    Thanks again for your help,
    Dave



    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post

    It looks like there is a tapered seat screw hole in the center, which means it could well be an antique brass furniture applique of some sort.
    I was also thinking along those lines as well... 'furniture hardware'.
    It's very thin, so maybe from a jewelry box or something?

    Thank you my friend,
    Dave



    Quote Originally Posted by paleomaxx View Post

    Found it! Not exactly the same but pretty close in size, and style. You can see the loop I was talking about and it's just lightly brazed onto the back so it may have just broken off your example. The property I found mine at dates back to the 1830's, but I had a feeling that this was Victorian in age.

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    Thank you so much for taking the time to 'dig out' your detecting find Max.
    My relic does look a lot like the piece you found. With the attachment you have on the top of yours, makes it look like a type of watch fob?

    Thanks again Max,
    Dave



    Quote Originally Posted by AARC View Post

    I got nothing...

    Sorry no help Anti.
    Hey, no problem buddy.
    I found it in 2011 when I first started detecting and I still can't figure it out.
    Dave



    Quote Originally Posted by Fourman110 View Post

    It’s got sort of a lyre style to it...
    It does have that look to it Fourman.
    When I look at it, I see a mid-Victorian style (c1880).

    Thanks for your post,
    Dave



    Quote Originally Posted by invent4hir View Post

    What a nice piece, just look at that detail! The ornate features have a Victorian look to them. In addition to the center hole, there are 2 more behind the blue glass, perhaps to backlight. It may be broken off of a bigger piece, as at the bottom there are some sections that don't flow with the design there. At first I thought it could be part of a brooch/pin, but don't see where the pin was attached...
    Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me invent4hir.
    With the remaining sections blue enamel, I'm leaning towards either brooch or part of a ladies hair pin.

    Thanks again,
    Dave



    Quote Originally Posted by invent4hir View Post

    The dark spoon in the first picture of other finds looks like a fiddleback design.
    Yes, this style of cutlery commonly stamped 'Nevada D&A' seems to have been a very popular style in my area.
    Over they years, I must have found at least a dozen pieces of this design of tableware.

    D&A Nevada Cutlery
    The firm was established in Birmingham in the late 19th century (the first known sterling silver hallmark was entered in Birmingham Assay Office in 1882). The founders were Thomas Henry Daniel (died 1897) and Thomas Richard Arter (died c. 1915) and was active at Globe Nevada Silver Works, Highgate Street, Birmingham as makers of brass, nickel-silver and electro-plated spoons, forks, ladles, etc. (1892). The firm had also a London showroom at 62 Holborn Viaduct (until 1896) and later at 98 Hatton Garden. In 1920 the firm was converted into a limited liability company and became Daniel & Arter Ltd. The business was closed in the 1930s and their dies were purchased by W.J. Baker & Sons Ltd. The main activity of the firm was the manufacture of a wide array of silverplate flatware and holloware marketed under the trade name of Nevada Silver (the best known) and others as Aluminum Silver, Argenline, Bengal Silver, Brazilian Silver, Burmaroid, Indian Silver, Japanese Silver, Laxey Silver, etc.
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    Just a guess but could it be from a vintage beer stein? I’ve seen emblems on some that look similar. Just a guess.

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    Throwing out another possibility.
    Some book clasps were attached to the cover with small rivets.

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