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    A buckle and a brooch

    Found these last season on my property over the Mississippi. Ideas on age?
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    Likeable and undateable apparently
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    The iron buckle is probably horse harness/tack related c1900.
    Your 'brooch' was originally gold-plated, but I don't think it is a brooch.
    It's more likely that it hung from a chain around a ladies waist, similar to a chatelaine... date wise c1910 - 15.
    Might also have been part of a hair clip/pin, hard to tell for sure exactly.

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    Thank you!!
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    Item 2...

    IMO...

    Scarf / bandana clip/hold.

    But ?
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    Looks like it would hold a sash or scarf, yes , but what is the eyelet for?
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    I agree tour first piece is a horse tack buckel.

    So questions for the second piece?
    How close is the cross bar to the back?
    With the applied ring on the back, I would say it held astone of some sort.
    The back bar could have been to hold it in place. Although unsuccessfully.

    So with alll that said I think it was a pendant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaRelic View Post
    Looks like it would hold a sash or scarf, yes , but what is the eyelet for?
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    Thats a head scrather
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    What kind of a flower has six petals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reanm8er View Post
    What kind of a flower has six petals?

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    Just a shot in the dark
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    To me, the flowers individually look like lilies. Where they all come together in the center may look like one flower but, may, in reality be a representation of the individual buds gathered together in a bouquet or corsage. I've seen broaches that had pins as well as loops so you could wear them as an amulet or a broach. I allow that the strap across the back and curvature of the strap and the front panel suggest a slide for hair, scarf or sash but the two small holes or spots might be where the pin was fastened to the blackstrap. The lily would be a spring reference perhaps?

    Either way, nice find of a beautiful piece! The filigree background suggests a possible Eastern background. Filigree like this is darned hard to do. It would have taken many hours to make the original wax model for this, by hand. The Russians and Eastern European folks do the best I've seen.

    I'd recommend you roll it on a stamp pad and then a piece of stout paper over a rubber pad of some kind. This will give you a more two dimensional image of the representation. Then immediately clean the face with denatured alcohol and a tooth brush. Show us what comes out, please?
    Congrats and best wishes!-----------Phil
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    When I look at this flower, I see a Daisy.

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    "Daisies symbolize innocence and purity, especially with white daisies with yellow or pale centers. In Norse mythology, the daisy is Freya's sacred flower. Freya is the goddess of love, beauty, and fertility, and as such the daisy came by symbolize childbirth, motherhood, and new beginnings. Daisies are sometimes given to congratulate new mothers. The sender can keep a secret. Keeping a secret is one way a person can exhibit that they truly love another."
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    Buckle - late 19th C horse harness buckle.
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