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  1. #31
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    That one sure is similar. Mine was found at a USCT camp from 1864.

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    Many people are claiming plumbing bars as CW and they are not. But the thin strips in question are different. They have these vertical lines (marked in red) as well as a border line. And the lettering has serifs. Its my guess this type is older.

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  3. #33
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    I dug mine out of my storage bin to add some more photos. Mine appears to have an "M" or "W" and you can see the vertical lines and same border as the others. Its hard to say with certainty but my M does not appear to have serifs so that should rule out Seminole War era for my piece and it might signify this type of lead was manufactured before and after the turn of the century. But I still say its not as heavy as the plumbing bars. At less than 1/8" thick it's more like a strap than a bar.

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    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Jun 11, 2019 at 10:44 AM.
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  4. #34
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    Thought I had more pieces somewhere in a container but this will have to do.
    Found at mid-19th century sites just outside of Winnipeg......

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    No Civil War battles fought here at the "Chicago of the North" but this heavy fur trade territory needed lead endlessly!

    *Forgot to mention the "Commercial" piece is heavy and almost a half an inch thick
    Last edited by Muddyhandz; Jun 11, 2019 at 07:07 PM.
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    After looking up "Raymond Lead Co. Chicago Ill." a bunch of wood decoys show up.
    Here's a bunch of the same "ballast weights" used for early decoys....

    http://www.decoymag.com/features/tid...ays12-2004.pdf

    The same company (Raymond lead) also made shot, solder, lead pipe, weights, etc.
    Wouldn't doubt it that these were used to make fishing weights as well.
    A metal detector can only do so much..........
    It's up to you to do the rest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddyhandz View Post
    After looking up "Raymond Lead Co. Chicago Ill." a bunch of wood decoys show up.
    Here's a bunch of the same "ballast weights" used for early decoys....

    http://www.decoymag.com/features/tid...ays12-2004.pdf

    The same company (Raymond lead) also made shot, solder, lead pipe, weights, etc.
    Wouldn't doubt it that these were used to make fishing weights as well.
    Wow these straps were actually duck decoy ballast weights! That blows the Civil War lead theory right out of the water. That explains the holes for attachment. Does that fit with the sites where they were found by other members?

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  7. #37
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    Here is more proof. These are old duck decoy weights. http://vintageduckdecoys.net/4_antiq...ead_weight.htm

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    Damn, awesome ID BCH, I thought this was going to be like the "E" cap thing and go on forever with no ID.

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  9. #39
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    I would be happy knowing it was a antique decoy weight...could have value, antique carved decoy carvings can go for big money and the weights add a nice touch
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffuries View Post
    Damn, awesome ID BCH, I thought this was going to be like the "E" cap thing and go on forever with no ID.

    Muddyhandz made the initial ID. I just posted the photos.

 

 
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