3 gold coins value

[Acquisitor]

Can someone please identify these for me ?

two are from ancient Greece and one is from medieval Europe..

 

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[Silver Searcher]

The Greek coins are Alexander The Great Gold Staters, that's if they are real, The hammered Gold Coin is not familiar to me, possibly a coin from the Nuremberg area of Baveria, again if real.

SS

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Its hard to tell if they are genuine. If you don't get an answer here.... Take them to a coin shop see if they can verify. If they say they are fake get a second opinion. If they offer you something but say they are fake. Get a 2nd opinion...

Keep @ it and HH !!

 

[david680]

Agree with MUD. I think you need to go to a ancient/medieval dealer. The average coin dealer could tell you very little about these, although they could probably determine if they are actually gold or not. Not a knock on them, most don't handle these and have no reason to learn about them.

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

The top and bottom pictures look like Replica's, the middle picture they look genuine.... So idk

Keep @ it and HH !!

 

[Acquisitor]

The top and bottom pictures look like Replica's, the middle picture they look genuine.... So idk

Keep @ it and HH !!

thnaks!

I'll make better pictures in macro tomorrow, the Greek coins could be replica's but they passed a test for 22k, and were found with a detector, so if they are replica's then they are not new but quite old.

 

[Silver Searcher]

The top and bottom pictures look like Replica's, the middle picture they look genuine.... So idk

Keep @ it and HH !!

Why do they look like replicas?, because the colour looks right to me, if they are replicas they look to be Gold one's

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

I didn't know they made 22k gold coins in greek times,you say you found these with a md ,so that answers that ?,also how did you test these, with acid,or did you use a mass spec gun
I think knowing your other metals inside including trace elements would give you a better idea if these are replicas or not...the hammered later coin looks nice

Most ancient gold coins were made of a mix of different metals, usually copper.

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

thnaks!

I'll make better pictures in macro tomorrow, the Greek coins could be replica's but they passed a test for 22k, and were found with a detector, so if they are replica's then they are not new but quite old.

Did you purchase the coins

Knowing the weight would help to determin if they are real. The only thing I see that does not look right is the seated figure of Athena, it looks to small compared to other Gold Staters of Alexander, that might be down to the angle of the pictures posted.

SS

 

[slowwevo]

Did you purchase the coins

Knowing the weight would help to determin if they are real. The only thing I see that does not look right is the seated figure of Athena, it looks to small compared to other Gold Staters of Alexander, that might be down to the angle of the pictures posted.

SS

his thread stated he found md'ing, athena is only the first thing I see wrong with them,Also I am waiting for my "peers" to show up with there info,according to some here it could take months or years for these experts to show up

 

[Silver Searcher]

his thread stated he found md'ing, athena is only the first thing I see wrong with them,Also I am waiting for my "peers" to show up with there info,according to some here it could take months or years for these experts to show up

His thread stated they were found with a detector, he didn't say it was his.

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

having a few staters myself im well aware what the gold content is on non replicas....on to your next comment

on to your next comment....What the hell is this supposed to mean, there are plenty of replicas out there with the same gold content as the real thing.

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Most replica's are not made out of the right gold content... It kinda defeats the purpose of making a replica... The color does not look right, looks to dark... The shine also seems to be to bright for not being plated replica's.. Now I know high Karat gold is darker but it also has less shine than lower karat treated items. Also the surfaces look polished.. I'm well aware they could be real. Just saying they don't look like it in the pictures provided accept for the middle picture the colors and shine looks right...


Keep @ it and HH !!

 

[Mackaydon]

Can you post another pic of the shield side of the first coin; more 'spot on' please.
Don.......

 

[Bramblefind]

I think the first coin may be this - or close to it-

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Florín. DAVID DE BORGOÑA (1456-1496) Obispo. UTRECHT. Anv.: SANCTVS MARTIN ...PIS. San Martín sentado en trono. Rev.: ¶MON.NOVA.AVREA.TRAIECTEN. Armas de Borgoña. 2,95 grs. AU. (Cospel algo faltado y grieta). Fr-190. BC+/MBC-.

Starting Price: 190 EUR

 

[Mackaydon]

I can read 'Carolvs' on the coin. I believe the shield represents the Coat of Arms of Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy as shown here:
File:CoA dukes of Burgundy 1430-1482 (chivalric).svg - Wikimedia Commons
Don....

 

[Silver Searcher]

Most replica's are not made out of the right gold content... It kinda defeats the purpose of making a replica... The color does not look right, looks to dark... The shine also seems to be to bright for not being plated replica's.. Now I know high Karat gold is darker but it also has less shine than lower karat treated items. Also the surfaces look polished.. I'm well aware they could be real. Just saying they don't look like it in the pictures provided accept for the middle picture the colors and shine looks right...


Keep @ it and HH !!

Perhaps I should have said Fake rather than Replica, if it's a intention to deceive the better the gold content the more easier it would pass for the real thing, I have seen this with Celtic Staters from the UK, and I know it goes on with other ancient coins. To me the coins posted look like the right colour, buttery Gold colour as I like to refer it to. It would be interesting for the OP to post the diameter, and weight.

SS

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Perhaps I should have said Fake rather than Replica, if it's a intention to deceive the better the gold content the more easier it would pass for the real thing, I have seen this with Celtic Staters from the UK, and I know it goes on with other ancient coins. To me the coins posted look like the right colour, buttery Gold colour as I like to refer it to. It would be interesting for the OP to post the diameter, and weight.

SS

I think we both know, several tests need to be made to determine if they are real or not. If the gold content, weight, size, and the details/design of the coin are all accurate. Then its safe to say they are real. I just don't know what the details/design should be. I just know a little about what high karat gold looks like and some idea what replica's look like. They just seem to polished and dark. However I have a strong feeling they are real.

Keep @ it and HH !!