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Was watching the news this evening (local) and it seems that someone has located a 303 year canon just off the coast of Florida. Haven’t found any other info out yet
303 year old canon
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Can you provide a link to the news?
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sorry wrong thread
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Briefly...as I understand it, that was a known cannon in an area that is seldom visited that the City of Fort Pierce wanted to have conserved for display. 1715 Fleet-Queens Jewels raised it for them, as is evident in the news story and photos.
They must have applied to the BAR and gotten permission to raise it. In order to do so, you have to have a plan to conserve it in an approved manner. That is a 3+ year process.
There are probably 50 -100 cannons and a goodly number of anchors that have been located and are "being preserved in situ" still out there on the 1715 wrecks.
THIS is a much better article...better pics and actual facts. https://www.tcpalm.com/picture-gall...annon-recovered-1715-spanish-fleet/980707002/
They must have applied to the BAR and gotten permission to raise it. In order to do so, you have to have a plan to conserve it in an approved manner. That is a 3+ year process.
There are probably 50 -100 cannons and a goodly number of anchors that have been located and are "being preserved in situ" still out there on the 1715 wrecks.
THIS is a much better article...better pics and actual facts. https://www.tcpalm.com/picture-gall...annon-recovered-1715-spanish-fleet/980707002/
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Soooo...... will this be the FIRST time the state has issued an 1A-31 recovery permit?...or is the municipality "exempt" from the permitting process? Just curious....
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The cannon was recovered by 1715 Fleet-Queen's Jewels operations manager John Brandon and Dan Porter on the Sea-Trepid from a wreck site that is under lease to 1715/QJ.
1715 Fleet/QJ has had a recovery permit for that site for many years.
This is apparently a special case since anchors and iron cannon are no longer recovered except by special arrangement with a plan in place to properly conserve the artifact.
I am pretty familiar with the way John Brandon conducts his business and I would bet my last 3 dollars that every I was dotted, every T was crossed and there are multiple copies of the agreement with the state filed with multiple lawyers, just in case.
NO ONE here wants to get cross-ways with the BAR.
The smiling gentleman with the trademark black t-shirt and gold coin is none other than John Brandon standing behind the SeaTrepid
The smiling gentleman in the white t-shirt with the lovely gold coin around his neck is Danny Porter,
1715 Fleet/QJ has had a recovery permit for that site for many years.
This is apparently a special case since anchors and iron cannon are no longer recovered except by special arrangement with a plan in place to properly conserve the artifact.
I am pretty familiar with the way John Brandon conducts his business and I would bet my last 3 dollars that every I was dotted, every T was crossed and there are multiple copies of the agreement with the state filed with multiple lawyers, just in case.
NO ONE here wants to get cross-ways with the BAR.
The smiling gentleman with the trademark black t-shirt and gold coin is none other than John Brandon standing behind the SeaTrepid
The smiling gentleman in the white t-shirt with the lovely gold coin around his neck is Danny Porter,
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1715 Fleet Queen's Jewels posted this on Facebook this morning:
"On Monday, August 13, 2018, 1715 Fleet-Queens Jewels recovered an iron cannon from the 1715 fleet Sandy Point wreck site, located just north of Ft. Pierce, Florida. Working with agreement from the Florida Department of State, Division of Historical Resources and under 1715 Fleet-Queens Jewels admiralty arrest of the site through the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, the cannon was recovered by Capt. John Brandon and Capt. Dan Porter aboard the recovery vessel M/V Seatrepid. The Seatrepid’s crew of Levin Shavers and Rob Hill, with assistance from Art Schweizer, along with 1715 Fleet’s marine biologist Peter Barile (who also did the photography that accompanies this post), were instrumental in the recovery process. The City of Ft. Pierce is going to do the three years of conservation work the cannon will need before displaying it along the water front in down town Ft. Pierce for the public to enjoy for many years to come. Informational kiosks will accompany the displayed cannon to educate the public about the cannon’s history and the history of the 1715 Fleet wrecks along Florida’s Treasure Coast."
"On Monday, August 13, 2018, 1715 Fleet-Queens Jewels recovered an iron cannon from the 1715 fleet Sandy Point wreck site, located just north of Ft. Pierce, Florida. Working with agreement from the Florida Department of State, Division of Historical Resources and under 1715 Fleet-Queens Jewels admiralty arrest of the site through the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, the cannon was recovered by Capt. John Brandon and Capt. Dan Porter aboard the recovery vessel M/V Seatrepid. The Seatrepid’s crew of Levin Shavers and Rob Hill, with assistance from Art Schweizer, along with 1715 Fleet’s marine biologist Peter Barile (who also did the photography that accompanies this post), were instrumental in the recovery process. The City of Ft. Pierce is going to do the three years of conservation work the cannon will need before displaying it along the water front in down town Ft. Pierce for the public to enjoy for many years to come. Informational kiosks will accompany the displayed cannon to educate the public about the cannon’s history and the history of the 1715 Fleet wrecks along Florida’s Treasure Coast."
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old iron cannons and anchors have little to no cash value and are a pain the butt to "conserve" --its a 3 year job and cost far more than their worth fiscally --their the "white elephant" of treasure hunting --that is why they are left "in place" on the ocean floor to rot away over time --because frankly no one wants em...even state archies understand this fact ...the fact that fort pierce wants one basically for a "tourist display piece" is funny ...being the "money pit" that they are --normally their left in place as "good reference markers' on 1715 wreck sites
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GREAT find, but I agree with Ivan . Yep, put it in a bathtub , then " Hurry up & wait !"
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I'd wait three years for some!
The conservation cost isn't too great, the time is, somewhat...
Some of the cannon on the 1715 fleet are buried under sand at times, some are exposed on the open bottom at times, some are even recognizable as cannon to layman.
Like many things people differ in opinion, some people think they should stay where they are, not just "archies" and some say bring em up.
The project having the "blessings" of the Florida Department of State, Division of Historical Resources is a good thing for private sector salvage!
The conservation cost isn't too great, the time is, somewhat...
Some of the cannon on the 1715 fleet are buried under sand at times, some are exposed on the open bottom at times, some are even recognizable as cannon to layman.
Like many things people differ in opinion, some people think they should stay where they are, not just "archies" and some say bring em up.
The project having the "blessings" of the Florida Department of State, Division of Historical Resources is a good thing for private sector salvage!
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