A question that makes me go hmmmm?

[azdave35]

Dave, I would have to agree there, at least I haven't seen any documentation either. Waltz, no. Wagonner, or whoever he was, who knows. Both were called "The Dutchman" locally and those stories then got all jumbled together depending on who was repeating them. Today, we have 2 separate stories in Wagonner's Lost Ledge and The Lost Dutchman's Mine. But there was a time when I thought they were the same thing based on what I had heard. I was wrong of course.

jim....my neighbor had a mining partner back in the 60's ..his last name was waggoner...he claimed to be a descendant of the waggoner that had the mine in the supers

 

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[PotBelly Jim]

jim....my neighbor had a mining partner back in the 60's ..his last name was waggoner...he claimed to be a descendant of the waggoner that had the mine in the supers

Whoa!! What Dave are you pulling my leg? I've never found a Waggoner in the Pinal Co. records! The only Wagoner I've ever found was the guy that bought part of Waltz's old quarter section on section 16. I even wondered if that's how a "Waggoner" got mixed into the dutchman story...it's not that far of a stretch since he lived on Waltz's land like 20 years after Waltz died. But there I go talking about section 16 again, I think I better put myself into the penalty box and take a "time-out" for stupidity!

 

[azdave35]

Whoa!! What Dave are you pulling my leg? I've never found a Waggoner in the Pinal Co. records! The only Wagoner I've ever found was the guy that bought part of Waltz's old quarter section on section 16. I even wondered if that's how a "Waggoner" got mixed into the dutchman story...it's not that far of a stretch since he lived on Waltz's land like 20 years after Waltz died. But there I go talking about section 16 again, I think I better put myself into the penalty box and take a "time-out" for stupidity!

jim..i'm serious as a stroke.....my neighbor had claims with the guy in the supers ...i think by miners needle..i looked them up years ago...his partner went by wags to his friends...the main problem with looking up waggoner is there is quite a few ways to spell it

 

[audigger53]

Are you sure you are not mixing it up with Wagoners Ledge ??

Yes, Wagoner was not out of Phoenix on the Stage.

 

[deducer]

I can say what it would be called if I found it, MINE.

The government will then step in and say "No, it's MINE."

 

[Oroblanco]

Would you care to expound the story?

 

[azdave35]

Whoa!! What Dave are you pulling my leg? I've never found a Waggoner in the Pinal Co. records! The only Wagoner I've ever found was the guy that bought part of Waltz's old quarter section on section 16. I even wondered if that's how a "Waggoner" got mixed into the dutchman story...it's not that far of a stretch since he lived on Waltz's land like 20 years after Waltz died. But there I go talking about section 16 again, I think I better put myself into the penalty box and take a "time-out" for stupidity!

jim..i was looking through some of my books...i have one titled treasure tales across the counter by merry wagoner...printed 1965...its a collection of treasure stories that was told in the bluebird store...all the tales are about the goldfield area....her husband went by the name of wags...i wonder if that was my neighbors mining partner?

 

[PotBelly Jim]

jim..i was looking through some of my books...i have one titled treasure tales across the counter by merry wagoner...printed 1965...its a collection of treasure stories that was told in the bluebird store...all the tales are about the goldfield area....her husband went by the name of wags...i wonder if that was my neighbors mining partner?

Probably so... I know a guy from AJ named "Wagner", but I know his family didn't move out there until the '70s. Too bad there's no way to "pry" all those old stories from the Bluebird's walls...sounds like you have the next best thing...but I bet you've heard every version of those stories anyway!

 

[azdave35]

Probably so... I know a guy from AJ named "Wagner", but I know his family didn't move out there until the '70s. Too bad there's no way to "pry" all those old stories from the Bluebird's walls...sounds like you have the next best thing...but I bet you've heard every version of those stories anyway!

yes i guess i have...lol..i still go out to the bluebird and talk to louie...i do miss seeing old john wilburn around there though